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In a 1992 malpractice lawsuit, Michael claimed a noble love for his wife:(1992年)
Q. How do you feel about being married to Terri now?(你对和terri婚姻感觉如何?)
SCHIAVO: I feel wonderful. She's my life and I wouldn't trade her for the world. I believe in my - I believe in my wedding vows.(我感觉好极了。她(terri)是我的生命。你就是用整个世界来和我换她,我都不干。我深信我结婚时的誓言)
Q. What do you mean? You want to take a minute? (怎么拉,你想休息一会儿?)
SCHIAVO: Yeah.(是的)
Q. If the court would let us take a minute.
Q. You okay?
SCHIAVO: Yeah, I’m sorry.
Q. Have - you said you believe in your wedding vows. What do you mean by that?(你说你深信你结婚时的誓言,是什么意思?)
SCHIAVO: I believe in the vows that I took with my wife. Through sickness, in health, for richer or poorer. I married my wife because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'm going to do that.(我的誓言是不管疾病或健康,富裕或贫穷,我都将和我妻子共度此生。我因为爱我的妻子才和她结婚并愿意和她一起度过余生。我肯定会这样做)
Yet, the very next year he gave this testimony during a Nov. 19, 1993 deposition: (一年后,1993)
Q. Are you presently – you’re married to Terri Schiavo, correct?(你现在还和terri结婚吗?)
SCHIAVO: Yes I am.(是的)
Q. Are you presently involved in a romantic relationship with anyone?
(你现在又和另外一个女人有婚外情吗?)
SCHIAVO: Yes I am.(是的)
Q. Are you involved in an intimate relationship with this person.
(你和这个女人有亲密关系吗?)
SCHIAVO: Yes I am.(是的)
Q. Is this the first relationship that you’ve been involved in since your wife has been in a coma?(这是你妻子昏迷后的第一次婚外情吗?)
SCHIAVO: No.(当然不是!)
So much for nobility and spending the rest of his life with his wife. In fact, within months of the malpracitce lawsuit he had already decided to end Terri’s life by "letting nature take its course."(事实上在terri昏迷几个月后,michael就决定让terri自然死亡了) Medical records indicate that after receiving the proceeds of the 1992 Medical Malpractice Trial totaling close to one million dollars not a single day of proper rehabilitation or therapy has been given to Terri. (1992年Michael得到100万之后,就基本没有在给Terri好好治疗过一天。有个护士证明,那时Michael说希望那个“母狗”早点死掉,那样他就富有了。michael的情妇证明,michael曾,我才25岁,我怎能这样过一辈子?)。
And in the spring of 1993, just a few months after this Medical Malpractice was awarded to Terri, Michael Schiavo, Terri’s legal guardian, instructed caregivers not to treat Terri who had acquired a common but life threatening infection. This happened again in 1995. Note: Michael is the inheritor of this Medical Trust. (1992年得到100万后,1993年michael通过法庭,获得terri法律上的完全永久监护权:野心昭昭。然后他就再没有给terri治疗过。 michael是terri医疗权益继承人)
Does Michael know what his wife would have wanted? Does he really care? Is he a suitable guardian for a person in Terri Schiavo's condition? Has he acted according to Terri's best interest? Has he shown a track record of faithfulness that can be trusted?
1. Terri's parents had no legal basis to start this fight at all since
they are not the legal guardians.
2. If your wife is in permanent vegetative state for 15 years, let's
see what you will do.
3. How did you know that Mike's whole purpose was that 1M? Many
people also said Terri's parents started this fight because they
didn't get any from that 1M.
No wonder you are a 白字秀才 since you are biased, and have no clue
about things.
狐狸葫芦 发表评论于
送交者: 白字秀才 2005年4月01日06:49:03
Terri Schiavo终于在连续13天“饥饿和饥渴”状况下,慢慢死去。
从本人的角度来看,死亡对Terri Schiavo本人未尝不是一件“幸”事,当然对她的丈夫来说“更是一件幸事”。
但是,如此的“死亡”,肯定不是她自己当初的愿望,如果真存在她的丈夫“声称”的她曾经希望不要人工维持她自己的生命系统的话。
所以,在这点上,如果说她丈夫真的完成了“her will of die",可以肯定地说她丈夫肯定没有实现”her will of how to die"。
不过,许多人会认为她丈夫的“her will of die"的说法是个”谎话“。
那么,即使她的丈夫说法是真的,作为夫妻的一方,他到底能”支配terri schiavo的生死到什么程度?
作为监护人,他可以说要她死就得让她死吗?
作为监护人,他可以在terri schiavo死的那刻,不让Terri Schiavo的娘家人在她旁边吗?
作为监护人,他可以绝对Terri schiavo死后的事情,而她娘家人毫无办法吗?她父母要把她埋在佛州,他却要火化,并把骨灰弄到个人不知鬼不觉的地方吗?
The trial court heard testimony from five experts: two selected by Michael, two selected by the Schindlers, and one independent expert selected by the trial court. The two experts selected by Michael and the independent expert agreed that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state and that her actions were limited to mere reflexes. The two experts chosen by the Schindlers disagreed, but the trial court found their positions not credible. For instance, the trial court explained:
At first blush, the video of Terry Schiavo appearing to smile and look lovingly at her mother seemed to represent cognition. This was also true for how she followed the Mickey Mouse balloon held by her father. The court has carefully viewed the videotapes as requested by counsel and does find that these actions were neither consistent nor reproducible. For instance, Terry Schiavo appeared to have the same look on her face when Dr. Cranford rubbed her neck. Dr. Greer testified she had a smile during his (non-videoed) examination. Also, Mr. Schindler tried several more times to have her eyes follow the Mickey Mouse balloon but without success. Also, she clearly does not consistently respond to her mother. The court finds that based on the credible evidence, cognitive function would manifest itself in a constant response to stimuli.
The experts also disagreed about whether any treatment could improve Terri's condition. The two experts selected by the Schindlers each proposed a potential therapy method, but the trial court rejected both of them based on "the total absence of supporting case studies or medical literature."
Affirming those decisions, the Second District explained that it, too, reviewed the videotapes of Terri in their entirety as well as Terri's brain scans. The appellate court explained that it not only affirmed the decision but that, were it to review the evidence and make its own decision, the court would reach the same result reached by the trial court.
狐狸葫芦 发表评论于
送交者: poohtiger 2005年3月31日11:50:43
my opinions are:
1.行政不应该干涉司法
2。如果通常的程序是health proxy能够代表病人做决定是否停止治疗(在医生确认无法治愈的情况下),这件事无论如何结局都是合法的,丈夫和医生都不是杀人犯。
但是,there's still something that bothers me.
1。法庭所做的判决,是丈夫和父母谁是合法的health proxy,还是是否延续TERRI的生命?如果是前者,为什么他丈夫后来没有权利改变决定?如果是后者,为什么法庭有权利,或者有必要决定一个人的生死?
如果有任何理由,比如TERRI的存在妨害了别人,比如私人没有足够的钱而需要成为州里或国家的负担,我可以理解这样的决定。但是这似乎不是事实。何况,五个医生中的两个认为TERRI的情形不是不可逆转的(i just got to know this, is it true? how come i didn't hear it before?).
2.尊重她的遗愿?Terri的遗愿在法律上是不能成为证据的。排除了这一条,在她的存在不妨害任何人的情况下,在生和死之间,default当然应该是选择生的。
3.尊严?我不认为一般人在病中比她好看多少,比她更有尊严。
很多TERMINAL的病人都有LIVING WILL 的。在他们无法决定自己的治疗后 (通常是
根据医生的判断,病人MENTALLY NOT CAPABLE了),他的POWER OF ATTORNEY 要根据
病人的LIVING WILL 来与医生协商如何继续治疗。一切的前提是,病人是TERMINAL。
TERRY 的案子的争议有二,她是不是无望复元,她是不是在无望复元的情况下,原
因放弃治疗。这两件是搞清楚,裁决就出来了。
我是一个工程师,我觉得,NOTHING IS COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE,PERIOD。
我不愿意从恶的地方猜测TERRI的丈夫。。但是,我觉得,他有他主观的成份在里面。
狐狸葫芦 发表评论于
送交者: 蒙脸丽莎 2005年3月29日14:19:49
You and him are judging the entire incident by a standard. Let me ask you who can really justify a standard? Is your standard right or is a pro-lifer’s standard right? No one can tell, because no one is the God.
When we are in such a situation, that is people are fighting for their own benefits, we can only seek political correctness. The way I see it is that such fight isn’t a bad thing, because the outcome will always be positive. Old or common morals are questioned and clarified. A better standard will thrive as a result of it.
Some may argue what about that poor Terry? Well, Terry is not suffering no matter what. She can’t feel. Her brain is dead. It is ironic to see a person who doesn't have sense is trying to make sense out of poeple.
Let’s watch. I am pretty sure something good will happen after all the dust settle down. Maybe there is a new law, maybe there is new way of thinking. Whatever it is , it is only better.
Read more about Michael please. He shared the malpractice money. And he had expressed his desire for her to die many years ago. He could not accept the money offer becasue it was already in the court's hand, not his decision to make. Basically the money offer came too late.
ho, ho, ho, learn more...
脑死亡是指以脑干或脑干以上中枢神经系统永久性地丧失功能为参照系而宣布死亡的标准。脑死亡有别于“植物人”,“植物人”脑干功能是正常的,昏迷只是由于大脑皮层受到严重损害或处于突然抑制状态,病人可以有自主呼吸、心跳和脑干反应,而脑死亡则无自主呼吸,是永久、不可逆性的。
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那植物人会感觉到疼痛和饥饿吗? - there 3/29/05 (1)
* Nope, they have no 知觉, 只有条件反射 /无内容 - Giants 3/29/05 (0)
狐狸葫芦 发表评论于
文章来源: -2-women- 于 2005-03-29 13:30:10
Terri的丈夫是伪善
Terri had tons of chances to wake up long time ago.
MONEY is the evil in the case at the beginning.
Save Face is the evil in the case at the end.
What make Michael not to divorce Terri while he already
have another woman and two kids? Because he does
not want to lose the custody over Terri with one million
dollors.
He didn't reallize that somebody else would pay him ten
million dollors if he would divorce Terri. Why cannot
Michael take the ten million dollors and give Terri better
treatment?
Poor Terri had tons of chances to wake up long time ago.