"Love is for Losers" was what i saw on a teenage boy's teeshirt-- he was an artless, bored young teen who carried a heavy statement in his face on his chest in his eyes on his shoulders in his heart ... what's for "winners" then? so many young people already spent, bent walking around carrying a statement like a rusted sun like a loaded gun ... someone was hurt deep inside someone is going to hurt someone tonight ... we still have a long way to go brothers & sisters ... :: yet, another day in paradise
P.S. "Love Is For Losers"
知凡 发表评论于
"changing perspectives can help us "think less" about ourselves [isn't that a good way to forget our pity "fears?"]"
知凡现在看什么都在changing perspectives......
所以，不小心看出“作先生”文字中的“乾坤大挪移”，“太极”招式.....
“knowing all that is to realize that "we" cannot change the world, but the "worlds" are in us!!!!!”
说的好！！！ 谢谢您另一部电影的推荐..... 周末快乐！
知凡现在看什么都在changing perspectives......
所以，不小心看出“作先生”文字中的“乾坤大挪移”，“太极”招式.....
“knowing all that is to realize that "we" cannot change the world, but the "worlds" are in us!!!!!”
说的好！！！ 谢谢您另一部电影的推荐..... 周末快乐！
LTG 发表评论于
作先生”练完了“乾坤大挪移” ，现在又在耍“太极”，佩服！！！张无忌的上乘武功，您只差“圣火令”了…….张无忌的神功仅次于郭靖....
:))
i wish i knew how to 耍“太极”:)
:))
i wish i knew how to 耍“太极”:)
知凡 发表评论于
“作先生”练完了“乾坤大挪移” ，现在又在耍“太极”，佩服！！！张无忌的上乘武功，您只差“圣火令”了…….张无忌的神功仅次于郭靖，郭靖等于完美，这世界上没有完美，“作先生”的文字功力小女子佩服佩服！！！
LTG 发表评论于
hi friends,
enjoy reading all your comments!!!!!
didn't know ZF is also an expert on 武功 :)
love the quote from “庄子秋水”...there is truth in it....
inspired by your words/ideas/observations, i realize that we have to
realize that "writing with heart" or "speaking with heart" is so important and so basic if we long for a better world/life.....
i always think faith and religion are two different things....again, for those who love movies, i recommand another one [which was filmed in the city i live now]: What the *bleep* Do We Know?
this film inspired many and it's still inspiring those who see it for the first time....i won't give out the film....it is worht watching.....it is about "meaning".....
people of different religious orientations are drawn to it and got inspired by it.....
religions are created by humans....even the idea of God!!!!
God, eastern gods or western gods, didn't write the Bible, didn't make the churches interfere with the states, etc... right???
knowing all that is to realize that "we" cannot change the world, but the "worlds" are in us!!!!!
for example,
a little poem cannot do anything in the eyes of a car dealer or a fat banker, but then, a poet or a writer/artist or anyone who pursues spirituality does it all the same because we know that "happiness" comes from within!!!!
enjoy reading all your comments!!!!!
didn't know ZF is also an expert on 武功 :)
love the quote from “庄子秋水”...there is truth in it....
inspired by your words/ideas/observations, i realize that we have to
realize that "writing with heart" or "speaking with heart" is so important and so basic if we long for a better world/life.....
i always think faith and religion are two different things....again, for those who love movies, i recommand another one [which was filmed in the city i live now]: What the *bleep* Do We Know?
this film inspired many and it's still inspiring those who see it for the first time....i won't give out the film....it is worht watching.....it is about "meaning".....
people of different religious orientations are drawn to it and got inspired by it.....
religions are created by humans....even the idea of God!!!!
God, eastern gods or western gods, didn't write the Bible, didn't make the churches interfere with the states, etc... right???
knowing all that is to realize that "we" cannot change the world, but the "worlds" are in us!!!!!
for example,
a little poem cannot do anything in the eyes of a car dealer or a fat banker, but then, a poet or a writer/artist or anyone who pursues spirituality does it all the same because we know that "happiness" comes from within!!!!
知凡 发表评论于
“用心”写的文字确实是有价值的，是受人尊敬的，但大多数写文字的人，都是用他们的心在写…… 如果作舟双壁轩里的诗歌仅仅是用心写的， 我想可能不会吸引我来读……..用心写文章的人太多太多了，认识几个字的人，都可以写，因为人人都有一颗心，而且有的人文笔一流技艺高超也无济于事……可看的书很多很多，我读不认识的人写的文章，可以说心对我没有多少吸引力…….
信言不美，扫大家的兴致，请多包含！
祝周末愉快！！！
信言不美，扫大家的兴致，请多包含！
祝周末愉快！！！
by水滴 发表评论于
YY and ZF: Thanks for the feedback on the sarcastic comment.
Teen's values and attitudes are strongly role-modeled after the society defined "sucessful and powerful" figures. The religious leaders or average church attenders have very little influence on them. They are not the "winners" I meant.
Teen's values and attitudes are strongly role-modeled after the society defined "sucessful and powerful" figures. The religious leaders or average church attenders have very little influence on them. They are not the "winners" I meant.
AAAB 发表评论于
作先生对说得好与不好有很精辟的理论，大意是只要是“用心”说，就是好。
看，我开始乱说了。
周末愉快！
看，我开始乱说了。
周末愉快！
知凡 发表评论于
说来说去，还是修养不足，说话的方式语气是很重要的，我们喜欢“作先生”（AAAB的称谓）的诗歌，也是因为其诗歌的语言和意境的妙处，但是语言有如武功中的内功，非一日可练成，所以我说与不说，常凭兴致，因为我知道我说不好......
知凡 发表评论于
AAAB，谢谢你的友爱......
AAAB 发表评论于
知凡，
有我(们)撑着你呢，说吧，说出所有你的心里话，你会发现你流着的泪水象欢乐的小溪。哈！
有我(们)撑着你呢，说吧，说出所有你的心里话，你会发现你流着的泪水象欢乐的小溪。哈！
知凡 发表评论于
谢谢你，AAAB，我从前不敢多说话，因为我真的很脆弱，说多了，我真会哭.....我想我们曾经受过柏拉图思想影响的人，你会理解。新时代了，我努力在现代艺术和诗歌里寻找抹去泪水的坚强......
AAAB 发表评论于
知凡，
我这有丝绸手帕，为你试你的流涕。让我们为那痛苦着的灵魂祈祷吧！
我这有丝绸手帕，为你试你的流涕。让我们为那痛苦着的灵魂祈祷吧！
知凡 发表评论于
我感到最悲伤的是顾城用他痛苦着的灵魂唱着阳光和光明，唯有舒婷“怀念顾城”，朴实的语言让我读得感动流涕，女诗人一颗多么温柔的心。
we still have a long way to go
brothers & sisters
...
we still have a long way to go
brothers & sisters
...
AAAB 发表评论于
有些教很邪，但正统的基督教还是有些道理。不太清楚，只是一种感觉。
看过舒婷和顾城的“致橡树”，很美，很难忘怀。
看过舒婷和顾城的“致橡树”，很美，很难忘怀。
知凡 发表评论于
黑夜给我黑色的眼睛
我却用它去寻找光明
从前喜欢读顾城的诗，可是他好惨，让人心碎。这是一个典型的理想与脆弱的例子。由此我喜欢读诗歌中的趣味：“以趣观之，因其所然而然之，则万物莫不然......”
究竟信什么或如何接近那个神，我还是在诗歌和艺术里找答案......人生没有捷径，因为即使你认识了神，她也不会真的帮你改变你自己和这个世界，所以我佩服
writing poetry is to find order
in this disorderly world ...
因为至少可以多少启发读者思考问题的方式，不盲目......盲目什么也不能改变，没有爱情，很少友爱，战争，杀戮，恐怖活动...... 目前最恐怖的，我认为根源也是盲目信的那些“教”，一个个无辜的生命.....
我却用它去寻找光明
从前喜欢读顾城的诗，可是他好惨，让人心碎。这是一个典型的理想与脆弱的例子。由此我喜欢读诗歌中的趣味：“以趣观之，因其所然而然之，则万物莫不然......”
究竟信什么或如何接近那个神，我还是在诗歌和艺术里找答案......人生没有捷径，因为即使你认识了神，她也不会真的帮你改变你自己和这个世界，所以我佩服
writing poetry is to find order
in this disorderly world ...
因为至少可以多少启发读者思考问题的方式，不盲目......盲目什么也不能改变，没有爱情，很少友爱，战争，杀戮，恐怖活动...... 目前最恐怖的，我认为根源也是盲目信的那些“教”，一个个无辜的生命.....
知凡 发表评论于
AAAB，我的理解是不能盲目地信，我也很崇尚信仰，信仰也可以说是精神，我相信有一个冥冥中主宰着我们的神（或别的什么名字），她创造世界万物包括人类的灵魂…… 我愿摒弃所有思想束缚，让我的灵去接近她，与之对话，希望她能告诉我所有的疑问，告诉我我该怎样面对生活，该怎样获得一个平凡的女人身心真正的平衡，这是目前支撑着我的精神…… 在这个过程中我是主动的，而不是被放牧的小羊羔，尽管我的内心有时比羊羔还要脆弱，但是如果我们主动修养自我，我们会逐渐逐渐真正坚强…… 教会里的人形形色色，和不信教的人没有本质的区别，其实人都是一样的，并不一定以群分，特别是如果我们也追求精神和信仰的话。如果信教的人以群分人，那他们是在信“教”，而不是信Holly Spirit, God and Jesus……
信仰确实是强大的，但你所说的“信仰将会改变社会”，如果是信的是"教"，那我忍不住又要悲伤了......
信仰确实是强大的，但你所说的“信仰将会改变社会”，如果是信的是"教"，那我忍不住又要悲伤了......
AAAB 发表评论于
去过教堂几次，觉得信教的人很天真，很单纯，很弱小，很理想。但是信仰是强大的，信仰将会改变社会。
知凡 发表评论于
水滴，佩服你的思维！
但是作舟这首诗歌的出发点有点像张无忌练习“乾坤大挪移”的武功，张无忌的内功为《九阳神功》…… 这么一说，你应理解这是英雄们的思维。
而金庸小说里，谁的武功最出神入化呢？是郭靖，郭靖所依内功为《九阴真经》，武功为降龙十八掌……郭靖在众英雄中，潜力谋略都有所不及其他英雄…… 这么一说你应理解这个世界老子所云“上善若水”的含义.
最近重读“庄子秋水”一篇给我颇多感想，摘一段与你们分享：
“以道观之，物无贵贱。以物观之，自贵而相贱。以俗观之，贵贱不在己。以差观之，因其所大而大之，则万物莫不大；因其所小而小之，则万物莫不小；知天地之为稊米也，知豪末之为丘山也，则差数矣。以功观之，因其所有而有之，则万物莫不有；因其所无而无之，则万物莫不无；知东西之相反而不可以相无，则功分定矣。以趣观之，因其所然而然之，则万物莫不然；因其所非而非之，则万物莫不非；知尧、桀之自然而相非，则趣操?矣。”
但是这个世界混混沌沌，我们需要英雄，特别是无所顾忌，乾坤大挪移…….
水滴，你的思维是在追求“天机”。哈！
但是作舟这首诗歌的出发点有点像张无忌练习“乾坤大挪移”的武功，张无忌的内功为《九阳神功》…… 这么一说，你应理解这是英雄们的思维。
而金庸小说里，谁的武功最出神入化呢？是郭靖，郭靖所依内功为《九阴真经》，武功为降龙十八掌……郭靖在众英雄中，潜力谋略都有所不及其他英雄…… 这么一说你应理解这个世界老子所云“上善若水”的含义.
最近重读“庄子秋水”一篇给我颇多感想，摘一段与你们分享：
“以道观之，物无贵贱。以物观之，自贵而相贱。以俗观之，贵贱不在己。以差观之，因其所大而大之，则万物莫不大；因其所小而小之，则万物莫不小；知天地之为稊米也，知豪末之为丘山也，则差数矣。以功观之，因其所有而有之，则万物莫不有；因其所无而无之，则万物莫不无；知东西之相反而不可以相无，则功分定矣。以趣观之，因其所然而然之，则万物莫不然；因其所非而非之，则万物莫不非；知尧、桀之自然而相非，则趣操?矣。”
但是这个世界混混沌沌，我们需要英雄，特别是无所顾忌，乾坤大挪移…….
水滴，你的思维是在追求“天机”。哈！
影云 发表评论于
Here is my understanding:
Rusted sun - - - hopeless and helpless
Loaded gun - - - frustrated, stressful, revengeful, and the like
Hard to say these so-called winners are really religious or do have faith in anything - - - they are rebellious and their self-knowledge are overshadowed by the pop culture.
I once talked to a teen friend; she said that every teen at school has a trend to make a suicide, which shocked me. Her teacher told them that high school could a cradle for self-discovery of those kids, but the intensive competition burdens and stress out them who go to college to take extra courses for their future.
my point is that the heart of a kid is a prairie; we can nurture it to green but also burn it. Who are “we”?
rc, I know you are sarcastic when saying those above. Like you critical thinking
Rusted sun - - - hopeless and helpless
Loaded gun - - - frustrated, stressful, revengeful, and the like
Hard to say these so-called winners are really religious or do have faith in anything - - - they are rebellious and their self-knowledge are overshadowed by the pop culture.
I once talked to a teen friend; she said that every teen at school has a trend to make a suicide, which shocked me. Her teacher told them that high school could a cradle for self-discovery of those kids, but the intensive competition burdens and stress out them who go to college to take extra courses for their future.
my point is that the heart of a kid is a prairie; we can nurture it to green but also burn it. Who are “we”?
rc, I know you are sarcastic when saying those above. Like you critical thinking
by水滴 发表评论于
"what's for "winners" then?" LTG asked.
The statement behind "Love is for losers" are:
"Aggression is for winners"
"Indifference is for winners"
"Cruety is for winners"
"Exploitation is for winners"
"Deceiving is for winners"
"God is love!" Isn't that sound hypocritical to you? When the murders tell us that they sincerely love God and " we shall love the others like love ourselves", do you believe the word "love" from their mouth? I don't! "Love is for losers" is what in their mind.
Who is a rusted sun! who is truely a loaded gun! Me?? Are you kidding???
The statement behind "Love is for losers" are:
"Aggression is for winners"
"Indifference is for winners"
"Cruety is for winners"
"Exploitation is for winners"
"Deceiving is for winners"
"God is love!" Isn't that sound hypocritical to you? When the murders tell us that they sincerely love God and " we shall love the others like love ourselves", do you believe the word "love" from their mouth? I don't! "Love is for losers" is what in their mind.
Who is a rusted sun! who is truely a loaded gun! Me?? Are you kidding???
知凡 发表评论于
"Kooser documents the dignities, habits and small griefs of daily life, our hunger for connection, our struggle to find balance. — Poetry "
Thanks for your recommendation.....
Thanks for your recommendation.....
rc 发表评论于
sometimes, cynicism is a way to cope with the crazy world.
LTG 发表评论于
yes, z.f.!!
the poet is a good one :)
ted kooser, i believe, the current poet lauraete of USA.
of course, people can find "order" by doing different things in life...
the poet is a good one :)
ted kooser, i believe, the current poet lauraete of USA.
of course, people can find "order" by doing different things in life...
LTG 发表评论于
that's right, y.y.!!
a few words can do that, sometimes....
humans are the happiest creatures
because we can
WRITE
RIGHT
!!!!
:)
a few words can do that, sometimes....
humans are the happiest creatures
because we can
WRITE
RIGHT
!!!!
:)
知凡 发表评论于
writing poetry is to find order
in this disorderly world ...
!!!!!!!!
depend on different poetry[poets]...
in this disorderly world ...
!!!!!!!!
depend on different poetry[poets]...
影云 发表评论于
Personally, I also feel writing does comb messy thoughts.
LTG 发表评论于
keeping one's eyes open
to the outside world
is the same as
keeping an eye
at the inner
world
.
.
.
to the outside world
is the same as
keeping an eye
at the inner
world
.
.
.
知凡 发表评论于
we still have a long way to go
brothers & sisters
...
brothers & sisters
...
LTG 发表评论于
i heard someone [a poet] said:
writing poetry is to find order
in this disorderly world ...
so we write
and keep
writing
.
.
.
writing poetry is to find order
in this disorderly world ...
so we write
and keep
writing
.
.
.
影云 发表评论于
灰色世界的宣言
: love is for losers
"someone was hurt
deep inside
someone is going to
hurt someone
tonight"
very well written
: love is for losers
"someone was hurt
deep inside
someone is going to
hurt someone
tonight"
very well written
知凡 发表评论于
...bored young teen
who carried a heavy
statement...
很有共鸣!
who carried a heavy
statement...
很有共鸣!
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