回复五维的评论:
Sorry, 五维 Mei Mei, yesterday I was too busy to discuss with you. I think your consideration is reasonable. Jia Lan is a character who can become either good or bad. A good novel probably will always have some potential links here and there, so that audience can use their imaginations while reading.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
Was writing to you and lost my sofa #1 :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
It's out!
我似浮云独自游 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
It will be the longest ten min. I have experienced.
I guess this coming chapter will answer many questions.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
"Should be in another 10 min."
oh,dear! how do you know that? jiajia!!
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复我似浮云独自游的评论:
Great. Some of your previous sentences sound like a naughty boy...lol.
Should be in another 10 min. Hold on. Then you could go to sleep soundly :-)
我似浮云独自游 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
I am also MM
It is time for Miao meimei post the next chapter?
I am so sleepy.....
furongguo 发表评论于
我猜测:贾兰是去战场见水溶,但却被敌人围攻,是水溶救了他。
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复sissidream and datuzi的评论:
I also support Miao Mei Mei publish the story into a well-packaged book!
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复我似浮云独自游的评论:
Yeah, it's a sister ID. Let me ask, are you a MM?
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复五维的评论:
"容我胡说"
We think you are speaking with reasons :-) Our multi-dimensional thoughts and discussions allow everyone to think more and have more fun. Please go ahead!
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复五维的评论:
"贾兰的可塑性也较大"
Agree. Actually, there is only one line between an angel and a devil. In general, a person may choose any road when there is a fork in front of him.
We say Jia Lan should be good, from Miao Mei Mei's previous chapters, meaning that we are guessing Miao Mei Mei's intention.
I would like to add one more evidence:
In "二十九、闻讯", "这时就见朱英匆匆跑进来,见了紫鹃劈头就问:“见贾兰了么?”" and "朱英拍了下脑门子道:“坏了,这个孩子,..."
Please also pay attention to Zhu Ying's selection of word "孩子". If Zhu Ying suspects Jia Lan, or already knows that Jia Lan is bad, I guess he would not have chose the word.
Also, "朱英匆匆跑进来""问""紫鹃". If Zhu Ying is monitoring Jia Lan, he won't have to rush to Zi Juan to ask, even forgetting that he should not let Dai Yu hear about it.
So, from Miao Mei Mei's previous chapters, it seems that, again, Jia Lan should be good.
However, there is one place that may or may not deserve attention. In this chapter, "让朱英看着贾兰去", Shui Rong said. Miao Mei Mei didn't use the word ZHAO KAN; she used "看着", which is a word with two possible explanations.
So, let's see. I would say, Jia Lan's good:bad = 9.9:0.1. But still, there is 0.1 there...lol.
回复datuzi的评论:
I'd like to contribute, either to "buy the copyrights" which I am not sure because I don't know what Miao thinks, or just support Miao, her beautiful works deserve to be published.
datuzi 发表评论于
Sorry there is a typo,
last year an investment group BOUGHT Toysrus, Babysrus, Kidsrus?
Not "brought", my fingers were flying without asking brain.
About !*****出书*****! and回复sissidream的评论:
I had planned to initiate this topic during miao Mei Mei's spring break. Since it is already brought up here, we just start from here. miao MM, have you contacted with any publishers? at least I think you should go for it. It is more enjoyable for readers to keep a book than to browse.
Another way depends on our readers. Recall last year an investment group bought Toysrus, Babysrus, Kidsrus? We interested readers can organize to buy Miao's copyrights (we can ask her to make the ending beautiful, haha!) and then seek publishers.
Any thoughts, JM(XD)?
datuzi 发表评论于
About !*****出书*****! and回复sissidream的评论:
I had planned to initiate this topic during miao Mei Mei's spring break. Since it is already brought up here, we just start from here. miao MM, have you contacted with any publishers? at least I think you should go for it. It is more enjoyable for readers to keep a book than to browse.
Another way depends on our readers. Recall last year an investment group brought Toysrus, Babysrus, Kidsrus? We interested readers can organize to buy Miao's copyrights (we can ask her to make the ending beautiful, haha!) and then seek publishers.
lol. I 100% agree and support datuzi Mei Mei's wonderful proposal!!!, using my both hands and both feet! :-)
Miao Mei Mei, that will be an innovation!
"Miao妹妹,只有你是看热闹的啦。"
This is like, we go to Miao Mei Mei's theatre to watch the play; and she watches us from the balcony :-) (somehow feel like Xu Zhimo's Zai Bie Kang Qiao...lol)
回复wumiao的评论:
Many many thanks :-) Thanks Miao Mei Mei's wonderful story; so that I and other sisters have the strong interests to read carefully and discuss. Thanks to sisters; so that I can feel so much fun participating in the discussions and continue.
Applaud! Miao Mei Mei has agreed to offer us more chapters!!! Thanks a bunch!
Please don't push yourself too hard. We understand you also have your everyday life, your career, your family with your husband and your kids. Now we have formed a "community of practice" with common interest and we enjoy very much reading and guessing and analyzing and discussing. Of course we always look forward to your new chapters. But while waiting, we are having fun too. To tell you the truth, this is the first time I don't feel that impatient. I typically don't like to follow chapters. Waiting always drive me crazy, especially for the story I love. This is the first time I feel that the waiting time is also beautiful.
In one word, we really appreciate your fantastic story and thank you very much!
Thanks very much for your encouragements :-) It has been a great pleasure discussing with you. Moreover, along with our discussions, we are having more fun with the story :-)
回复jiajia07的评论:
Your point is a very good one! Thank you! And I do have a lot of fun reading and discussing on this story! Thank you guys and many thanks to Miao too!
Agree with datuzi: I also wanted to say: "Excellent writer and reader!"
Jia Jia's point made me think more. I read the recent chapters again and I also found one thing which is against my own doubts about 贾兰: he is improving with martial art very fast!
In the 29th chapter, 贾兰道:“我跟师傅学了很多东西,如今我自己可以和三个王府护卫交手,只赢不输,和师傅徒手相搏,十回也能撂倒他三回,不信你问师傅。”
If he was a spy and under monitering, ZhuYing wouldn't have tought him much. So, I give up my suspicion toward 贾兰。I think I missed some details about 贾兰. I cared more for DaiYu and Shui Rong. I was not as careful as you guys. :) Now I believe he is a good guy and hope all is well with him.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
Excellent writer and reader!
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复五维的评论:
Many thanks for the discussions. I believe we all have a lot of fun from these discussions.
One reason I don't think Zhu Ying considers Jia Lan is a spy is as follows:
In Chapter "二十九、闻讯",
"朱英在旁边接道:“若只是平常送信,可以让你去,可是前面已经是一片血海了,人死伤无数,连一个中军大将也死了---”黛玉定睛望向朱英:“你说什么?”朱英见自己说漏了嘴,就打了自己一个嘴巴,伏地不说了。"
If Zhu Ying thinks Jia Lan as a spy, I think he will not act as above. (He didn't want to expose the situation to Dai Yu, since it might be dangerous for Dai Yu to know about all those. That's what everyone tries to hide from Dai Yu.) He will be much more prepared to block Jia Lan's actions. Also, he would not let Jia Lan flee away, since he would monitor Jia Lan's actions.
So in general, from the previous chapters, I kind of not thinking Jia Lan as a spy. Anyway, that's just my opinion. Welcome for more discussions. Maybe I miss something.
jiajia07 发表评论于
I just had some discussions with Miao Mei Mei. I think Miao Mei Mei is very careful on details - really appreciate!
Dai Yu is pregnant at the beginning of August. The army started in early September ("只因王爷不日就要出京" still can mean 20 days), when Dai Yu just had her 2nd-month period and Shui Rong's Mom asked her about it. Then Miao Mei Mei explained that "十月下旬到达西北王家庄" (it took a while for the whole army to move to the front), then it is almost 3-month pregancy. Then several days after the New Year's Day, it could be explained that Dai Yu had a little more than 5 months' of pregnancy. Then after another two months or more, 7.5-month pregnancy is fine.
datuzi 发表评论于
I could be wrong. But the threads that miaomiao MM paved for "贾兰is a spy" is too vague to be true, not like Miao's usual style.
Have you watched "Saving Priate Ryan?" It took bloody experiences to turn a normal person into a hero, such as the interpreter. 贾兰 was a Shu Sheng in the beginning.
But again I could be wrong though...It is just not very persuasive to make "贾兰is a spy".
In Chapter "二十五、绣鞍", "离京的时候太妃问过我,太妃说那个如果还在,就---我说那个,那个还有". "夫人不知,是因为在第二个月上来了些许月信,俗称早见红。" It seems that before Dai Yu and Shui Rong started, she is at least 2-month pregnant.
In the same chapter, "夫人腹中已有了三个月的身孕。" That happens just after they arrived at the front. So at that time it would be some time in September.
In Chapter "二十一、衷情", "只因王爷不日就要出京,王府中忙的人仰马翻。过完中秋..." So it seems that they started not much later than the Mid-Autumn Day.
In "二十七、朱紫", "算算黛玉已经是中期的五个多月的身子了". That is around the New Year - I guess it is about lunar calendar.
From Mid-Autumn's Day to the New Year's Day, there are about 4 months and a half. Even if we consider Dai Yu just entered the 2nd month before started, say end of August, she should entered at least the 6th month around the New Year's Day.
Then after two months when the baby was born, the baby should be at least 8 months. So the kid should be all fine.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复五维的评论:
"至于贾兰,我仍心存疑虑"
There are two possibilities:
1) he is good: He is still alive: "让朱英看着贾兰去". He probably is badly wounded; and he gave the knife to Shui Rong.
2) he is bad: still possible. "让朱英看着贾兰去" may also explain as asking Zhu Ying to monitor him. However, unless there is a definite reason, it is difficult to see why Jia Lan went to kill Shui Rong, after Dai Yu refused his proposal as a messanger.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复五维的评论:
"每个刚生过孩子的妈妈都希望老公孩子时刻在身边吧。我所认识的妈妈们在美国的产房里大都选择rooming-in,老公虽然不是同床,却也睡在旁边的床上。想来王爷的宽宅大院条件只会更好吧。这样安排很温馨."
--True, at least for me. Miao must have shared the same feeling.
"至于贾兰,我仍心存疑虑."
--I cannot see an issue with 贾兰 so far. Let's wait for Miao meimei's development.
五维 发表评论于
回复datuzi和海棠花的评论:
Agree with you two!
Especially about 1, 每个刚生过孩子的妈妈都希望老公孩子时刻在身边吧。我所认识的妈妈们在美国的产房里大都选择rooming-in,老公虽然不是同床,却也睡在旁边的床上。想来王爷的宽宅大院条件只会更好吧。这样安排很温馨.
回复明艳如我的评论:
至于贾兰,我仍心存疑虑.如果他是好人,估计拚死保护王爷,自己却已经不在了,因为黛玉给的刀到了王爷手上.如果他是坏人,王爷身上的血迹估计有他的"功劳". 不过贾兰不是主要人物,只要水溶黛玉和他们的孩子平安,我就放心了.
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回复海棠花,datuzi的评论:
Agree with 1. Miao Mei Mei doesn't have to explicitly write how Shui Rong and other people make sure no bacteria will hurt Dai Yu and the new baby. But those things will be done for sure. There are very experienced people around.
Agree with 2 generally. Dai Yu formally buried about Bao Yu and their past. In the future, she will live for Shui Rong and the kind, and mostly importantly, for herself, as she said in Chapter 16, "如今我已经不再埋怨东风了,更不自嗟,活一天,我便活出我的样子来..."
For 3, agree with datuzi, when Dai Yu recovers, she could ride the horse. Because anyway, Shui Rong specially bought for her. Meanwhile, it is half a person high. It will be several years before Wan Er could ride the horse :-)
For 4, datuzi Mei Mei is right, things will be different at another time. However, 海棠花 Mei Mei is also right, since Shui Rong loves Dai Yu so much, he would not like anything to remotely have the chance to hurt Dai Yu. So another Wan Er may or may not come :-)
For 5, agree with datuzi Mei Mei. Miao Mei Mei wants to emphasize how Shui Rong cherishes Dai Yu. The baby is the extension to their love and life. But the people are the most important. As Miao Mei Mei mentioned several times in the previous chapters, Shui Rong emphasized several times, he doesn't care whether the baby is a boy or a girl; all he wants is Dai Yu's health first. Also, his energy is completely exhausted from the battle (blood everywhere around him) and the worry about Dai Yu earlier. So at that moment, he was so released by Dai Yu's back. All he wants is to take a rest. And he needs a rest. He could enjoy the baby together with Dai Yu when they wake up.
Look forward to the next Chapter.
Many thanks again to Miao Mei Mei.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复海棠花的评论:
Nice prediction! Strongly agree with 1 and 2.
about 3, it could be 万儿 belongs to "horse" zodiac animal.
about 4, "生万儿,差些要了黛玉的命": the main reason is the danger and the worst war period, and 黛玉 had thought Shui Rong had died. She did not gather any strength to fight for her baby and intended to give up her life. If this had happened again when Shui Rong were around, life were peaceful and lovely, 黛玉won't do this.
about 5, "为甚麽水溶不看看孩子?" miao might emphasize Shui Rong's love for 黛玉. He did not spend much time during 黛玉's pregnancy, and almost wanted to kill himself if something had happened to 黛玉. So it could be the case that he wants to watch the baby when 黛玉 wakes up.
So Shui Rong is just back for a couple of hours? Jia Lan saved Shui Rong; gave Shui Rong the knife; Jia Lan was badly injured; Shui Rong also took him back?
烟雨镜中花 发表评论于
实在是写得太好了.
jiajia07 发表评论于
Earlier due to network issues, I think Miao Mei Mei uploaded the chapter into wenxuecity first. I did occupy the sofa there. Then I have to go to classes. And afterwards, when I rushed to Miao Mei Mei's home, a whole room of sisters :-)
This chapter is really enjoyable. Many thanks to Miao Mei Mei!
回复datuzi的评论:
Agree!
Miao mei mei is THE professional writer.
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回复sissidream的评论:
Thanm you!
And I am laughing too!
紫色的熏衣草 发表评论于
顶!宝玉就这么走啦?这算是跟过去的生活彻底的告别,开始幸福的新生活吗?
pinkkiwi 发表评论于
听了老和尚的歌,也真担心呐, 水溶回京一定要被关天牢了!
miao mei mei ,就不要让他们回去了, 就去那个万城隐居吧, 啊?
datuzi 发表评论于
miao Mei Mei, thanks for the hard work! This is one of best episode so far. I had thought how you could describe Dai Yu gave birth, but you picked an elegant way. professional writer!
sissidream 发表评论于
回复pinkkiwi的评论:
You are welcome. And I really like this one, I can't keep from smiling:
不管他, 王子也好, 世子也好, 只要是我们期待的林妹妹的仔就好!
datuzi 发表评论于
回复sissidream的评论:
sissidream is so generous! not like me, who was wild of joy and only wanted to compensate jiajia...
雪冰月 发表评论于
不过至少水溶回来了, 孩子也出世了, 大家也就先松了口气.
pinkkiwi 发表评论于
回复sissidream的评论:
thank you!
and 不管他, 王子也好, 世子也好, 只要是我们期待的林妹妹的仔就好!