回复MayChen的评论:
"However it is important to establish a professional relationship with your boss. They will be your future references and network. A good boss can be a mentor to help your career development as well'
Totally agree - fortunately I have met a couple of supervisors who really help advance my career. Yes - try to build up a professional friendship with boss. You both could become good friends after separation. Thanks for response!
回复MayChen的评论:
Agree with all what you have displayed. Thank you very much for reading and sharing with us your thought.
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回复doublehelix的评论:
If company allows you to go publishing, you should do it by all means. From the publication, your accomplisment will be recognized and sometimes will create an opportunity for you. I am always working in the development area, only the work that we don't think it is valuable or you can present in a very generalized format and then you will be allowed to go to publish. This is particularly true for the big company. You are quite right, never to be a competitor of your boss. I learned from it and doing very well since I was asked to leave. If I look back, not too many good bosses that I have met. On the other hand, one of my former bosses clearly told me that he would encourage my challenging. It turns out that we are still good friends and he is quite successful since then. I will describe this part later in my write up. Thank you so much for your sharing your experience and thought. That is really the motivation for me to keep writing.
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忘记对你说了──你真有勇气面对过去,佩服!
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回复doublehelix的评论:
“Also, your boss and you in most cases will not become good friends for real.”
That is true in most cases. However it is important to establish a professional relationship with your boss. They will be your future references and network. A good boss can be a mentor to help your career development as well.
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回复yijibang的评论:
“Many times the education you exercised will lead to more trouble for you. “
Totally agreed! From my own observation, many of my American colleagues understand the politics at work better than us and know how to protect and advance themselves.
“On the other hand, after you have accomplished that you may end up with nothing. Many times we are trying to make win-win situation and many times the end results are not what we would like to expect.”
Sadly, most of the companies do not reward their employees based on the value they created. Many of the top management are simply incapable and not mature enough to handle the win-win situation.
Looking forward to hear more stories from you. Thanks for sharing!
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回复MayChen的评论:
"For those who are very productive, do not expect to get rewards from most of the company. You have to learn to share your credits with others, keep low profile, and wait for the right opportunity to move to the next level".
- very good points! Always keep in mind that always try to be the assistant but not the competitor of your boss unless you have to. Also, your boss and you in most cases will not become good friends for real.
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回复yijibang的评论:
I enjoyed reading your articles. In the arena of early drug discovery area (for example, a variety of therapeutic areas), publication is very important, especially for Ph.D-level scientists. It is mainly because the business is a science- and results-driving business. So it is recommended to always manage to publish your results in scientific papers (usually you have to patent the findings if they deserve to be patented). One needs to show evidence to be talented and productive in a certain field. It might be a different story in development field of pharmaceutical companies.
回复MayChen的评论:
I certainly echo what you have just said. It is our duty to educate our boss as they always told us. It is important to know whether your boss is educable or not. Many times the education you exercised will lead to more trouble for you. I realized I made a gross mistake as I described above in moving ahead of my boss. We always hear people say that our job is to make our boss looking good. On the other hand, after you have accomplished that you may end up with nothing. Many times we are trying to make win-win situation and many times the end results are not what we would like to expect. As moving on my story, I will describe some of the better situation. Thank you very much for your reading and comments.
You are touching a very sensitive issue here. In order to survive in the industry, you have to balance your relationship with your boss and know when is the time to speak out and when you have to be quite and let your boss to take the spotlight. The higher the position you are at, the more important this is going to be. At one of my job, I had to educate my boss in private ahead of time, then he spoke in front of everyone in the company wide meeting as if the ideas were all his.
A lot of managements in the industry did not learn the drug discovery and development process step-by-step, rather they graduated from top-notch university, jumped to very high-level positions very fast, thought they knew everything, and managed company poorly. It is a sad situation, however it is very common in the industry.
For those who are very productive, do not expect to get rewards from most of the company. You have to learn to share your credits with others, keep low profile, and wait for the right opportunity to move to the next level.
As for papers, it is still very important to keep publishing if you are PhD level scientists and want to stay on the science track. You can be creative here, patents, papers on methods, compounds, reviews, abstracts at meetings and symposiums. All will help your career in the long run.
元宝妈 发表评论于
谢谢前辈。
对呀,Report也是Paper。在工业界10多年了,Report无数, No Publications.