noso, to answer your question, I believe option 3 is the fairest and best. Chinese government will likely go for option 2. China may win the fight(s) but will loose the war in the end.
There seems to be an overwhelming belief that all the westerns are against Chinese, and all western media have got it wrong and only CCTV got it right. Do you really believe that or are you hoping for medals from the CCP and CCTV? Another overwhelming opinion is that we Chinese should be united but what these people really are saying is that we should all be ganging up against Tibetans regardless. I personally prefer having my own view, making my own mind up and not blindly following the self claimed and narrow minded nationalists. Anyway, how many of you would be brave enough to admit that you have abandoned your Chinese citizenship to be American, Australian or whatever? And the people you are fighting against, i.e. Tibetans were born Tibetans. So you can abandon your right of being Chinese and Tibetans cannot fight for their birth right of being Tibetans?
NEW YORK TIMES
GRAHAM BOWLEY
In Paris on Monday, as it passed through the French capital under armed guard, the torch was extinguished several times, and police officers were forced to move it aboard a bus to protect it as demonstrators swarmed the security detail.
Chinese Olympic organizers abruptly canceled the last leg, as well as a stop at City Hall, where a banner proclaimed, “Paris Defends Human Rights Everywhere in the World.”
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Support you! No matter what happened so far, all Chinese around the world, we should support our country, support each other, support Olympic. we can not change other people’s opinion, but we can do whatever we think the best for Olympic!
Don't understand why the Canada leader involves in this Tibet issue. Maybe I am not a very knowledged person, but a very simple example: First nation has their own cultures and life style, but now has been changed after the other nations entried the land they used to live. The current government put a lots effort try to change First nation's living condition, some of them being appreciated, some of them not, however, can you imaging if one day, some people they don't like the change, they feel their cultured has been interupted, and some kids just jump to the street, burn the houses down, killing other nations on the street, what do you think the local policemen will do??? The policemen will take the trouble makers to the jail, right? Now, it is in Tibet, for people who caused trouble, Chinese policemen tried to hold it till it is over the edge, then it is too much? then some people in far away place watch it like a game since they are safe, just talking and bothering local government and tell they what to do, in order to put pressures on local government, they even start to against the Olympic game, which should not involve the political issues at all, remember? the oliver leaf? Leave China alone, and they know what to do and how, leave Olympic game alone!
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Frankly, This article is very thoughtful and constructive to me. But the comments...I mean a lot of comments here reminds me of all the crazy people during the extreme times, like those in the culture revolution era, Americans after the 9/11, or even the Germans at the Nazi time. If you don't like the way you were treated, don't treat it back in the same way, or you just put yourself in the same catagory with those you hate so much.
It's not always a win or lose game.
Those lost temper here are pretty much showing no difference from those they criticize the most.
I think a proper education is very important. This morning, one of my co-workers asked me if Tibet is one of China's neignboring countries. I didn't argue with her, instead, I explained to her Tibet is part of China, just like California is a state of America. I realized many Americans don't know, and may not be even interested in knowing anything about the history of Tibet. I have been volunteered a lot at the elementary schools and middle schools, trying to tell the kids about China, from a positive point of view. The media only shows human rights issues and environmental issues, they rarely show how beautiful our country is, how nice Chinese people are... I wish my little effort can have some impact, to one, ten, one hundred, and more American people. Someday, I wish they will change their view.
This is nothing surprising. The entire fiasco is orchestrated by the West, and the Dalai Lama has been an American proxy since he fled in 1959. It will only escalate as the Olympics draws near. It will die down once the Olympics is over. China should think about its religious policy in Xizang. There is no other government in the world that provides financial support to sustain a religious group. I think Mao did the right thing in shutting down the monastaries and sending the monks to work the land. The monks are "parasites" of society.
哥们,就靠造谣惑众吸引眼球,还要给中国政府出谋划策?歇歇吧. 藏独分子孤注一掷,就以为世上的人都赞成? 看看这个:
"Everyone has a right to express themselves but to stop it passing shows a lack of respect for the basic freedom of our athletes to carry this flame, which is a message of peace to the whole world."(Radio Australian)
support the first way! This is our own business. Who cares what they say? Go ahead and protest to boycott, because this is as far as it can go. China is not Iraq or Afghanistan or Bosnia, they don't dare to use military force or economical boycott
回复MDGG的评论:
"Why don't let them have the tourch and see what are they going to do about it? China has nothing MORE to lose!
Better yet, let's have the first flameless Olympic so evryone in the world will remember this. Then declear those guys terrorist group. Nobody want their territory separated. Then China should use what happened in Waco, Texas, in the late 90's to shup them up"
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与我心有戚戚焉。不要派什么圣火护卫团，看着特不磊落。有什么好保护的，在别国的地盘，圣火被弄坏了，丢的是谁的脸？应该把那什么捞什子的护卫团改成记者团，把这些无耻的行为细节每个都拍下来，按照细节，逐点揭露，逐条反驳。空泛的大而无当的口号没啥用处。就像踢球时防守，要人盯人才行。争夺话语权也是这样，也是要花心思花力气的。
另外，楼主不要胡扯什么打强硬牌就是要“封锁反面消息，只报道正面新闻”。最自信最强悍的就是走群众路线，让所有的群众，西藏的群众，中国的群众，世界的群众都能接受全面咨迅，中国政府是有很多工作做得不好的，能在监督中改进，是弊大于利的，只要在策略上循序渐进，并抓住主权不能分裂，政教不能合一两个根本就行。
也不能把文革跟“封锁反面消息”画等号。文革时对外是，但对内不全是，除了大事。但重要的是小事，在小事上有大鸣大放大字报我看比现在的黑箱家长制好。西藏的问题是阶级矛盾（想不出更合适更“现代化”的词来）加剧了民族矛盾被西方利用。文革不能重复，也没法重复，它既不是唯美的，也不时全无可取之处的。
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不得不注册了 发表评论于
stupid westerners who have no brain at all. They have sh1t in their heads!!
let's join the support in san francisco against those tibetlist.
sumingming 发表评论于
回复noso的评论: Briliant! Talk, talk, talk, and talk until after the Olympic...
noso 发表评论于
Clinton calls on Bush to boycott Olympics
Posted: 01:40 PM ET
Clinton is calling on President Bush to boycott the opening ceremony of the Olympics.
(CNN) – Hillary Clinton is calling on President Bush to boycott the opening of this summer's Olympic Games in Beijing, China.
In a statement released by her campaign Monday, the New York senator pointed to the recent protests in Tibet and the Chinese government’s failure to pressure the government of Sudan to end the violence in Darfur.
“These events underscore why I believe the Bush administration has been wrong to downplay human rights in its policy towards China,” said Clinton. “At this time, and in light of recent events, I believe President Bush should not plan on attending the opening ceremonies in Beijing, absent major changes by the Chinese government.”
Last month, Clinton – who has long advocated a tougher approach toward the Chinese government – declined to call for a U.S. boycott of the Olympic Games, but called for greater pressure leading up to the summer event in Beijing.
agree with xs's comment. China does not know how to play well this game yet. It is all a learning/lying process. Look at the current vic/presidents. They all lied under the oath about the iraq war among others. Accountable for that? No, are you kidding?
The Chinese gvmnt are too "good".
Why don't let them have the tourch and see what are they going to do about it? China has nothing MORE to lose!
Better yet, let's have the first flameless Olympic so evryone in the world will remember this. Then declear those guys terrorist group. Nobody want their territory separated. Then China should use what happened in Waco, Texas, in the late 90's to shup them up.
Do you think Dalai Lama is a spiritual leader and peace-maker? Do you really think this movement is just about Tibet? You are too naive! This new wave of anti-China movement is to weaken China and slow down its developing speed. If China is not important for them, why should they invest so much to just to shout and scream?
