与此同时,奥巴马也在运用他独有的,在总统竞选过程中被证明行之有效的发动群 众运动的策略,通过由总统竞选积极分子参与的 Organizing for America (OFA)的基层 组织,自下而上地推动医疗制度改革。去年,整个共和党及民主党总统候选人希拉 里就是低估了奥巴马的这种草根组织的力量,而让“没有经验”的奥巴马改写了美 国总统竞选的历史。
自6月份以来,OFA 和Health Care for America Now 等组织在紧锣密鼓地多方运作, 一方面在公开场合大造声势,如6月25日在华盛顿国会山举行的推动医疗制度改革的 集会
口号是“High quality, affordable health care for all, this year”。
有来自美国各州的工会团体和组织,Acorn, the AFL-CIO, American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, the American Federation of Teachers, Communications Workers of America, SEIU, and UAW 等,
8226; 顶!!! -老忽- ♂ (0 bytes) (5 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Co:顶!!! -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 医保改革的关键是降低医保费用 -whatiswrong- ♂ (619 bytes) (75 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Clinton医改的失败就在与他对既得利益者的打击太大。 -老忽- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 国家没有存款,如果不增加赤字,只能打击既得利益者 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 但不能太大。 -老忽- ♂ (0 bytes) (6 reads) 7/29/09
8226; the most laughable answer of the day so far -wxc39- ♂ (0 bytes) (6 reads) 7/29/09
8226; We have to spend on "sick' cure it and make it grow, but -MPSocks- (35 bytes) (9 reads) 7/29/09
8226; "sick' economy and cure it... -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 回复:We have to spend on "sick' cure it and make it grow, but -wxc39- ♂ (248 bytes) (17 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Yes ! overall we will have to spend on proper sector to grow job -MPSocks- (202 bytes) (8 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Again, you get yourself lost -wxc39- ♂ (275 bytes) (9 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Whatever ! -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Spending on proper sector has nothing to do with baling out WS -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; MPsocks, it was a typical case of you... -wxc39- ♂ (44 bytes) (7 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Show me URs.U don't understand not because you can't, but -MPSocks- (53 bytes) (7 reads) 7/29/09
8226; if we focus on fixing real issues like health care, close loop h -MPSocks- (19 bytes) (5 reads) 7/29/09
8226; if WS needs to rot through first (according to U),. -wxc39- ♂ (41 bytes) (5 reads) 7/29/09
8226; I meant to fix the loop holes of financial system, not WS per sa -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; "rotten through" (lan4tou4) means WS has to suffer more to point -MPSocks- (203 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 看着你咬着自己的手指头在那里嘴犟的劲头,想起了那谁谁。。。。。。 -wxc39- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Fantasizing (Yi4Yin2) too much is not good for UR health ! -MPSocks- (96 bytes) (9 reads) 7/29/09
8226; a wife, a life ... -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 呵呵,看看你这熊样儿,犯得着气成这样吗。。。。。 -wxc39- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 气 ? why ? -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; I do feel a waste of time on someone clueless ! -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; i enjoy wasting my time on someone with too many clues like U... -wxc39- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Wrong logic! People with too many clues don't need U and UR time -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (1 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 其实指出你逻辑上存在的重大偏差也是对你的爱护。。。 -wxc39- ♂ (34 bytes) (8 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 逻辑? Only law prof can talk about law, economics prof -MPSocks- (127 bytes) (10 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 防止你今后到处丢人现眼不是对你的爱好吗 -wxc39- ♂ (100 bytes) (6 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Get a wife, a life whatever takes to stop UR insanity. -MPSocks -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 看你颠三倒四地引用自己的这两句,倒真让人见识了insinity -wxc39- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Only to U "insinity" ? LMAO ! -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (1 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Agrred ! It can and will be. We have to start first ! -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; If 90% or more people use Gov's health plan, doctors -wxc1204- ♂ (316 bytes) (34 reads) 7/29/09
8226; contrary to what GOP predicted/promised, free market did not sol -老忽- ♂ (150 bytes) (20 reads) 7/29/09
8226; health care is more than just a service,it is basic rights. -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Yes, it is part of basic human rights. -老忽- ♂ (77 bytes) (9 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 奥说绝对不通过增加财政赤字来为医疗改革买单 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (231 bytes) (42 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Have you read the news, he is going to cut $$ from -WXC1204- ♂ (122 bytes) (37 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 也许这可以节省一部分 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (0 bytes) (5 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Then he should refund part of the money to the people -WXC1204- ♂ (52 bytes) (8 reads) 7/29/09
8226; why? -老忽- ♂ (62 bytes) (7 reads) 7/29/09
8226; because they get less benifit due to the cut -WXC1204- ♂ (0 bytes) (7 reads) 7/29/09
8226; do u know medicare will bankrupt if we don't do anything? -老忽- ♂ (70 bytes) (6 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Are you sure OB's new plan won't bankrupt? -WXC1204- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Are you sure OB's new plan will bankrupt? -老忽- ♂ (0 bytes) (5 reads) 7/29/09
8226; The reason why I applaud 08 for guts to even tackle this issue -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; The country will be bankrupt -WXC1204- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Yes, if we don't reform health care system. -老忽- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 这次集中在“全民”享有,不是“全面”享有 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 总结的精彩,会借用此点。 -Stillh2orundeep- ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 咱们拭目以待,看他有没有这个操控能力 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 7/29/09
8226; otherwise, medicare is just like a Ponzi Scheme -WXC1204- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Sorry, u do need to know the basics of a Ponzi Scheme. -老忽- ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 从中国引进3亿年轻人Ponzi Scheme 就可以暂时循环了 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (6 bytes) (5 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Hahaha ! Ding ! -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 我个人不太确信这张dollar分配的真实性 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (0 bytes) (6 reads) 7/29/09
8226; If things come so easy, it would have been done already. -老忽- ♂ (111 bytes) (17 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 老忽哲理名言 --凡尔赛-- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 7/29/09
8226; Co:老忽哲理名言 -MPSocks- (0 bytes) (2 reads) 7/29/09
8226; 的确如此。这种CHANGE从来不是易事,但共和党无法让人再信任。 -Stillh2orundeep- ♂ (0 bytes) (1 reads) 7/29/09
8226; If thing is difficult to do, it usually is diffcult to do it rig -用户名被占用了- ♂ (0 bytes) (6 reads) 7/29/09
julia42163 发表评论于
回复jennifer123ee的评论:
I know what it takes to be a good doctor and what it takes to be a rich doctor(both in China and US). I know the difference between treating a patient, cure a patient and to prevent a human from being a patient. I know how much weight a doctor's intellegence carries in the whole health care delivery system. This debate is not about whether you want the top 10% or bottom 10% students to be doctors.
Actually it's a very good question for politicians to think about: whether they want a system to encourage top 10% students to be medical doctors.
StillH2ORunDeep 发表评论于
回复julia42163的评论:
就说嘛,真正的聪明人是做聪明事的。医生挂牌子只是为了治病救人。
julia42163 发表评论于
回复jennifer123ee的评论:
hehe, I went to the best medical school and I am not only top 10%, but may be top 1%......
But I don't use my smartness as a ticket to insult people who have different point of views or to look down people who are less blessed.
StillH2ORunDeep 发表评论于
See no point to argue with self-assured assumption. Better check with ALL Harvard professors who support Obama, his economic plan AND health care reform.
jennifer123ee 发表评论于
回复julia42163的评论:
Your comments proves you probably are not at top 10% of your class. Only top 10% or even less students in this country can go to medical school.
However, if you are at bottom 10% of the class, I don't blame you supporting the ObamaCare
jennifer123ee 发表评论于
回复StillH2ORunDeep的评论:
If you havn't not heard of this, I suggest you read more!
回复jennifer123ee的评论:
“most of european countries are trying to privatize their medicine program.
They have experienced it, they want to be like us. ”,这倒是第一次听说,没见过这样的文章。总不至于在美国吃够了苦头,寻求变革的时候,有人会愿意试试至少10%的人没有医疗保险的“特点”。
回复tortfeasor的评论:
The problem with the current situation (healthcare) is it gets the worst of both socialism(medcare, medcare and gov subsidize to hospitals, very inefficient and wasteful) and capitalism (denial of pre-existing conditions, doctors are profit driven and not result driven).
The only solution is to create competition to bring out the best of socialism and capitalism. I don't think 100% free-market work well in health care.
julia42163 发表评论于
回复jennifer123ee的评论:
Only doctors should be and can be trusted in this country?
how about police? How about politician? Are they from the top 10% of the class? Even with the 'smart' doctors now, can they be trusted now?
jennifer123ee 发表评论于
Here are my concerns for socialize medicine.
1. Doctors will be compensate much less. Very soon, the only students want to become doctors are the bottom 10% of the class, not the top 10 %. will you continue trust your doctors?
2. medicaid and medicare patients will have to settle with the less benefits. Because there are so many more people need to be covered by government, people who already benefit will have less coverage.
3. Quality of the care. Our doctors will not have options to choose what care to provide to patients, the government does. The government will tell us what treatment will be cover, what will not!
4. all government social programs have cost more than projected, this will efffect whole country's economy. has any government run program work better than private inductry? NO, they all fail.
5. Last but not at least. Talking to some friends from Europe, most of european countries are trying to privatize their medicine program. They have experienced it, they want to be like us.
shangweng 发表评论于
这种文章最好别再登了,实在没什么内容.
whatandhow 发表评论于
回复tortfeasor的评论:
Sorry, I am one of the "average Chinese living in the US" who is below the "average intelligence" and think the same as the author. By the way, I do not see so many "average Chinese" you mentioned around here.
好望角骆驼 发表评论于
先把那些垃圾快餐整治一下吧,看把人都喂成啥样了。
bivan 发表评论于
OB是压倒米国的最后一根稻草。蜀中无大将,廖化当先锋。米国来日无多了。人民公社不早就完蛋了吗?
小鸿 发表评论于
回复new^new的评论:So you think Bush is pretty smart? what is you IQ?
tortfeasor 发表评论于
You seem to be a very active Democrat, but, seriously, you can still try to talk with your brain for a change. This is the wrong forum for you to advocate such propaganda, because most of us came to this country to escape from socialism. Your comment is an insult to the intelligence of average Chinese living in the United States. On the other hand, if you truely believe in what you said, I feel sorry for you.
tortfeasor 发表评论于
You comment is an insult to the intelligence of average Chinese living in the United States. If you truely believe in what you said, I feel sorry for you. Don't forget that most of us came to this country to escape from socialism, which is where it is heading to right now. You seem to be a very active Democrat, but, seriously, you can still talk with your brain instead.
freesia 发表评论于
就一句话:钱从哪来?
918918 发表评论于
Which social class has more obesity? Think about all the diabetic patients picking up by Obama's new policy? Spine, knee, and shoulder surgeries... they did not take care of their bodies, now us, the tax payers need to
包粽子 发表评论于
你得文章我都不用看,就知道你是为奥巴的 health care 叫好,估计你也是没有医疗保险的,就指望奥巴的health care 和 加税(当然别人的税)了,钱从哪儿来?
BO and his friends will break your leg in order to give you a crutch free. Wise up!
There are good or bad politicans on both sides, as long as they truely speak for average folks, we the people need to support them, that's the way how you make politicians work for you other than being manipulated by some vile politicians and caught up in the political game. The way that BO handled the Gates gate showed he is nothing but an empty suit. Americans need healthcare reform, but not the one BO pushs.
wuximm 发表评论于
Receiving adequate health care is everyone's responsibility not the right. Where does health care dollar go? More than half we spend on the people dying within 6 months. Without addressing the fivorous law suit, end of life care issue and prevention, Health care will cont to sky rocket. Now Obama try to cover everybody by taxing the others, is the worst idea, it soon will bankrupt America. Look at the current "universal healthcare" such as medicare ( for >65 yrs old citizens) and VA system ( for Veteran), they both run poorly on the verge of break.
The healthcare reform should address to cut down the cost, so everybody can afford. Make it illegal if you don't purchase health insurance just like car insurance.
Free health care for all is not good care and it creates more waste and abuse just like any existing public run welfare. For sure it will bankrupt country if it passes.
so far from your article, I don't see any "奥巴马推动美国医疗制度改革的高明之处".
jjj7 发表评论于
OB is a bullshit talker. US will go down in the long run if his policy passes. Everybody will be equally poor and get equally poor quality of health care (sounds familiar?)