things are not easy in china, until now...... but you son of motherless horn, should appreciate the great leader of the country still gives you the chance to change your passport......pray, pray........
回复oceanblue07的评论:
A citizen in a civilized society is to be a STAKEHOLDER. A nation or a country is constructed for the purpose of serving its people; In exchange, the people living in the nation obey the law (reasonably law, hopefully). It is a CONTRACTUAL relationship. Think about it like the structure of a Corporation. The purpose of establishing a corporation is to serve its shareholders, not another way around.If the management (government) does a bad job, it should be fired.
The concept of absolute loyalty to a nation, tribe, king, or clan may be relevant in a tribal society, or feudal society, or a monarchy, where individual people are "owned" by the chief ("son" and "mother"), feudal lord, or king, and exist for purpose of serving the chief, lord, or king. This concept is not relevant in a modern society, where the nation or state exists only to serve the people.
Thus, if one agrees an individual before the nation, he should be able to have a contractual relationship (a citizenship) as his choice, just like what happened when colonists chose to be Americans during the Civil War.
回复人气与地气的评论:
I have a question if/hope you don't mind. If somehow you would decide to have an adopted country one day, would you consider you and your new country to be "son and Parents", or you remain as a "son to China" only?
I think one adopts a new country is like to have a good friend. It does not mean you have to give up your old good friend (China),for your new good friend (your adopted nation).
Nationalism is out of favor since world II, since it has been tremendously used in Hitler's Germany, and also because Nazism (National Socialism)was sub-categorized under the Nationalism. Only in China and North Korea Nationalism is still POPULAR today. The unconditional loyalty to one community is a classic example of Nationalism. To honor that loyalty, millions of German soldiers can be sent to front lines to die; North Koreans can happily stay hunger without too much complaining.
If one considers his nation of origin as his own parents,then he should expect this nation to be responsible for him, since we all agree that parents should be at least responsible for their children. I wonder if it's the case here.Thus, you are ONLY child of your parents, not someone else's, not your nation of origin.
Thus, obtaining a different citizenship is not because one is more interested in his adopted new nation than his nation of origin (Joe's parents vs. your own parents, according to your logic,) but because one is more interested in his only well beings and his own children.
回复医师的评论:
I am sorry. There is no easy way for me to type in Chinese on the compute that I am using now. I should have downloaded the software. BTW, do you know which software is considered to be the best to type in Chinese?
It's unfair to conclude that the author 有一种居高临下的感觉. In fact, I think the he has a great sense of entertaining and humor.
fayfei 发表评论于
回复溪岚拾叶的评论: I agree, but the author's point is that a Chinese citizen should be able to get/renew a Chinese passport IN China. If a policy is too weak/poor to support this basic principle, that policy should be revised.
It doesn't matter which location one chooses to renew the passport, but it does matter if one has the rights to choose.
Hi maymay: Sure I do. We can not always avoid running the errands. I hope you would agree with me that we don't always have bad experience when dealing with the Chinese authorities. Sometime we could enjoy the usage of the back door, sometime we just have to see "how stupid they CAN BE"...
But, the issue is that the red tape and bureaucrats create inefficiency, which would eventually hurt the society as a whole.
Thus,let's hope an individual would not be SILENT when one himself has to deal with the RED TAPE, at least not to be supportive of it. If no one bothers to try or "ask", nothing would be improved, and everyone needs to always to prepare to deal with the similar ordeal.
hl1108 发表评论于
嘿嘿.辛苦了.办的辛苦,写得也很辛苦..
苦苦苦啊..
DanaD 发表评论于
气死人不偿命的，看样子要逼着所有拿绿卡的换他国护照了，唉。
maymayw 发表评论于
to fayfei:
good questions, but, other than question 1, have you dealt with these organizations in China yourself before?
don't ask, you MIGHT get a chance to get things done
1) Why don't you get the new passport at the embassy in France?
2)Why don't you ask them to show you the POLICY whenever the officers referenced and threatened you with a policy?
3)Why don't you try to talk to their supervisors about specific POOR custom services that you have received? It would at least gave them a heads up.
4)Why don't you send a letter to the Chinese "decision making" Offices on this issue, or even to the media? (I understand that this letter will not solve the problem immediately, but it doesn't hurt.If everyone is silent to the injustice,and consider the government inefficiency as a way to be, the situation will never be improved.It's sad to see folks have to continue repeating your experience every day.)
