回复有理走遍天下的评论:
Only yourself is yelling how good Chinese are, and you are the one cursing people, are you the typical Chinese? if you think you are then you are the one that add shame to Chinese.
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支持WienFan
"何为道德,这是一个大的话题,脱离不开相对性" 多有zhe理.
Who can tell me how can I type word in Chinese? Where can I download?
Com'on, you got to be kidding us! What if those two poor little girls were her real daughters then? Would she dump them for the same excuse? There were so many ways that she could play this out. Hire nannies, ask relative to help etc. etc., she got plenty of financial resouses to do so but she chose to dump them!
悟空孙: you've got typical male thinking here. I believe you owe Chen an apology. If you were pregnant at a later age (say over 30) you'd know it's fairly easy to feel physically exhausted (I know because I had been there)--it's hard to take care a set of twins, not to mention to take care or prepare for a brand newborn. It's for the BEST interest for the two kids to have a new home than facing a stressed/depressed perhaps parent who could not give her 100% care to them.
I normally would enjoy reading your writings but for this particular one, hell NO! How dare you to be so judgmental?! Who do you think you are? God?? [These last two questions are also meant for those judgemental people who thought they were GOD, who could point fingers at other people at will.]
Thanks for reading.
回复WienFan的评论:
The essence of love and compassion is understanding, the ability to recognize the physical, material, and psychological suffering of others, to put ourselves "inside the skin" of the other. We "go inside" their body, feelings, and mental formations, and witness for ourselves their suffering. Shallow observation as an outsider is not enough to see their suffering. We must become one with the subject of our observation. When we are in contact with another's suffering, a feeling of compassion is born in us. Compassion means, literally, "to suffer with." Thich Nhat Hanh teacher of Zen Buddhism
Well, you have to be qulified as a "good person" before you are qulified to be a "good mother". Othewise, there will be no difference between human beings and animals.
有难处 is not an excuse. She chose the adopting path and giving it up for a very lame reason -- having her own child. Nobody forced her to adopt the children at the first place, but she showed how selfish and iressponsible she is by "transfering" her responsibility to another adopting couple simply because she had her own child.
This whole issue has nothing to do American or Chinese but rather the deeply rooted cultures and education. 陈冲 is an American NOT a Chinese, her actions and deeds only represent her deeply rooted Chinese culture and logic despite she's been in US 20+ years. With her income level and financial situation she could afford to taking care of and raise two girls, she choose not to by gave them away and making sorry excuses shows her ignorance, selfish, and possess basic empathy as a human being.
draintank 发表评论于
This whole issue has nothing to do American or Chinese but rather the deeply rooted cultures and education. 陈冲 is an American NOT a Chinese, her actions and deeds only represent her deeply rooted Chinese culture and logic despite she's been in US 20+ years. With her income level and financial situation she could afford to taking care of and raise two girls, she choose not to by gave them away and making sorry excuses shows her ignorance, selfish, and possess basic empathy as a human being.
回复cnca的评论
请问你可以做的更好吗? 因为陈冲是名人, Then her all news going to public. 因为你不是名人, even you did wrong things, there are no body know what's going on. You can put every thing under table when you did mistake.
我支持陈冲,虽然她不对, 可她也没有wrong,我,你,她all明白陈冲为什么这样做, The result is good. She is responsible them and she told truth when the news came out. 我们都不是陈冲本人,都不确切知道她当时收养/转养双胞胎的动机和意图。但确切知道她有爱心有素质,很年轻就来了美国并居住了二十多年。
My girl friend and I talked about Joan Chen adopting kids and getting rid of them after she got pregnant right when this happened years back when we all lived in the S.F. Bay Area. We all agreed that only Chinese people would do this kind of thing, shame on us, Americans would never have done the same… It was very tacky…
彭定康 发表评论于
实在是没理解你的理在哪里!用英文也理解不了,不过就是又穿了个马甲,哈哈。
ShengQi 发表评论于
to: 有理走遍天下
I think what I talked about are serious topics,
On the other hand, you are very creative on calling people's names, those dirty words just burst out from your mouth, I think you are used to do that. who is 泼妇骂街, just look at your self :)
to: 有理走遍天下
In real life, do you call people names in debating?
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复ShengQi的评论:
We are talking about adoptions here!
现在真是泼妇骂街了!!!
ShengQi 发表评论于
to: 有理走遍天下
Did I 抵毁中华文化和中国人民? did I made up the story? I just said the truth. In US, people can critisizing presidents, why can't people say the truth? you can do what ever you want, but why you want everybody to shut up, if they don't, you call it 抵毁? I'm glad you don't have the power to arrest me.
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复ShengQi的评论:
你先在网上抵毁中华文化和中国人民,反而变得我骂街。 一个连祖宗都不认的泼皮无赖。
ShengQi 发表评论于
if you 有理, why 'Ma Jie" ?
ShengQi 发表评论于
You sounds like a 泼皮无赖 on the street :)
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复白小猫的评论:
谢谢支持!
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复ShengQi的评论:
以为是君子之辩,理性之交,原来是戴着色镜的泼皮无赖。。。
没有兴趣跟泼皮无赖打交道。
ShengQi 发表评论于
to;有理走遍天下
If you have problems understanding, let me tell you:
Because the root of adoption and deserting girls and women's right in China, are all the same: the DARK side of Chiese culture.
白小猫 发表评论于
回复有理走遍天下的评论:
支持你!
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复ShengQi的评论:
We are talking about adoption, why are you talking about corruptions? women's rights? Chinese culture is darker than the western culture?
You said you can hardly find nice Chinese parents in adoption, do you still hold your ground?
ShengQi 发表评论于
My ground can not be changed by you generalizing a few cases, and denying the magority cases
ShengQi 发表评论于
I'm not changing subject at all, say whatever if you want
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复ShengQi的评论:
Do not change subject, we are talking about adoptions here. You said there were no nice people in China when it comes to adoption, do you still hold your ground firm?
ShengQi 发表评论于
re:有理走遍天下
I admire them, especialy they are poor, but how many of these amoung Chinese? I believe there good people anywhere, but what is the percentage in China and in the west.
That's the culture difference.
ShengQi 发表评论于
The worst thing is that, the bad part will continue for generations: if you watch Chinese TV, most of them are about guys having several wives, servants loyal to their masters, need bribe if you want to do anything, need connections if you want to do anything... and they are a very moving, make people think it's so normal and understandable.
All these forms how Chinese behave and think, and this will pass on to the next generation, since that's the culture they are in.
draintank 发表评论于
you know 贺梅 is the loser in this BS! She had a stable life with caring family and friends in US. Right or wrong from her standpoint she was happy and worry free. Now she is in a foreign country (I will bet that's how she feels) trying to fit in to a society totally foreign to her with no friends and now no family due to her parents going through divorce. If her parents love her they should have let her stayed in US and be happy. Chinese will never understand that and would treat their kids as properties, not another human being. I love my kids because I am their parent but more importantly I am their best friend. There are nothing they will not able to talk to me or share with me. Every decision they make I always support them but from time to time I will insert my inputs and opinion and guess what? They take my inputs and opinions seriously and we always able to agree to disagree but still best friends.
Re: 有理走遍天下
It's not about dark or bright side, it's about Chinese people should think deeply about Chinese culture, it's not only in countryside, in cities, amoung "educated people", discrimating women exits in all kind of forms. One example, there will be no chances for a devorced woman with kids in China, but they are respected in the west.
If the culture of a country can't respect everybody equally, it's a bad culture.
有理走遍天下 发表评论于
回复ShengQi的评论:
Well, it is on TV. 日本归国遗孤回中国省亲。 Maybe you only look at the darker side of the Chinese culture, and only the brighter side of the western culture. We've long learned each culture has good people and bad people, why can you find nice people in China? Maybe you do not want to find nice people in China in the first place.
ShengQi 发表评论于
Re 有理走遍天下, maybe what you said is true, but I never heard of it. What I believe is what I see, it's too much!
I agree with you, most Chinese are selfish when adopting kids, even when having their own children, that's why so many GIRLS are deserted by their own parents.
Where is LOVE when people don't love their children?