回复mikecwu的评论:
Almost every square inch of the usable land is used to produce the food. There is no hungry problem, but not much extra food. Food price is very high.
Not enough gardens, forest, natural parks, etc. People are so crowded everwhere.
In 60', argricaltual technology was far below the current level. Not enough Nitrogen. Food ouput per unit land was only around 50% of that at the current level.
回复mikecwu的评论:
The food already hits the bottle neck with current population and the new technology such as 袁农平的杂交水稻 and 高效灌溉技术. You have to know the limitation of the technology either. There is no way to produce unlimited food with limited water. Nitrogen is the key to increase the food output but there is also limitation. China also needs to import large amounts of Nitrogen. One word the resource is limited.
The technology might be developed furthe. But the population still needs to be controlled with the current technology lelvel.
Asian Tiger和罗娜罗拉之类的论调:因为资源不够,就应该杀人.这不是什么新潮思想,希特勒当年就是以资源不够为由,杀死老弱病残.然后又以犹太人血统不够高贵为名,屠杀犹太人.今天中国政府以资源不够,农村人素质不高为由,强制堕胎,强制结扎.美国历史上制定的法律把黑人当畜生看待,后来黑人领袖带头违法,争取了今天平等的地位,那些当年违法份子都是今天英雄人物被载入史册.今天中国违法超生的父母都是我们民族的英雄,如果中国未来还有希望的话,都要感谢这些冒着生命危险给我们民族增添后代的英雄祖先.
回复needtime的评论:
Water resource is another bottle neck for China. With the current population, the average water resource per person in China is far below that of the world.
The distribution of the water resource still can be changed by the water resource engineering. In big cities, more restrict policy is needed to save the water.
回复mikecwu的评论:
Where can you find the food for so many Chinese people? Do you want the Chinese people live like the people in N. Korea? N. Korea still can get help from China since it is a small country. If Chinese population is keep growing, the only answer is "hungry". Be aware that alomst every squre inch of the usable land in China is already used to produce food. If China is going to buy large amount of food in the internaltional market,the price would fly.
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回复AsianTiger的评论:Over population was never a mistake of any body. China's population percentage in the world has always been decling. In Qing Dynasty we had 33% of world population, in 1949 only 25%, now only 19%. The world population is growing, and China does not have more people than other countries. If no other country is forcing one child only, then China is studpid to do it on its own.
US has the natural resouce to support 1.5 billion people. Right now US has big space to increase the population.
I agree that the over population was the mistake from the government. It is good to see that the government is correcting the mistake instead of continuing the mistake.
I agree that the 户口 policy is another big mistake from government. The people in China are classied to to 2 classes at the birth time and it is very hard to change in thier life. This policy limits the free flow of the population and really hurts the quality of the population such as the marriage of relatives, etc. Only N. Korea has the similar policy in this world. Even in Chinese history, there was never such kind of policy.
We should urge the Chinese government to change the 户口 policy instead of birth control policy. Birth control needs to be change when the population is going down to certain point. Actually the government has already adjusted the birth control policy in a very reasonal way.
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回复AsianTiger的评论:
Your argument is very naive and ignorant.
It is stupid to compare China with US, because it is not apples to apples, i.e. old countries with old countries, new countries with new countries. Compare China to Japan and West Europe and see which has more arab land per capita. China has more arab land per capita than Japan and Western Europe. Compare US with Brazil: Brazil has more land per capita and it's a very poor country.
China's land belongs to its people, not its government. People have families in their own land, using their own resources, it is their unalienable right. If you deprive people's right to have children, you render them to slaves. Do you want to be a rich slave, or a poor freeman?
Chinese government was very poor in its management and that's why China is a poor country. Yet the government put the blame on its people, saying too many people made this country poor. The right way is to have a free market system, encourage innovation, get rid of government control on land and 户口,and it turn, it will free up people's intellectual power and make China a worl class country.
Reducing population will never make a country strong. Population reduction will always lead to a country's decline. US is so strong because it's population grew from 30 million to 300 million within 100 years, not because it shrank its population from 800 to 300 million.
Smart people want to reduce other's population while increasing its own. Stupid people reduces its own population while letting others grow.
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Please have a basic understanding of the Chinese natural resource before you publish any article. Otherwise your opinion sounds very stupid.
China has the silmilar land as United States has. But the land that can produce food is only around 50% of that in US while the population in US is less than 1/3 of population in Chins.
Chinese land is already over burdened with the current population. With the great effort from the government and agricultural scientist, Chines agricultural ouput per unit land has been more than quadrupled since 1950. It is almost the limitation of the land ouput and only just enough to support the basic life requirement of the Chinese people. If you want to improve the life quality such as more gardens, natural parks, forest, etc, Chines population should be controlled under 800 millions.
Thanks to the birth control officers in China for their hard work. It is really a very very difficulty task. Without the mandatory birth control policy, Chinese population would have more than 2 billions. China would be the poorest country in the world. Everyon would be hungry.
Why you should feel sympathy for those women who violated the policy? They clearly knew the policy but still tried all the ways to violate it. They should pay the penalty for the violation of the policy that over 1 billion people have to follow.