回复欢颜展卷林中闲坐的评论:
"The death of American citizens is in the thousands in Iraq war. Iraqis are not American voters, so democratic principles don't apply to them. i.e. no vote, no representation (of your interest).
Flawed? yes. But it's good to be an American citizen. That's why so many people still want to naturalize."
你这个评论很有意思。按照这种逻辑,人人都想当贪官,就证明腐败是好制度了。
回复欢颜展卷林中闲坐的评论:
"The death of American citizens is in the thousands in Iraq war. Iraqis are not American voters, so democratic principles don't apply to them. i.e. no vote, no representation (of your interest).
Flawed? yes. But it's good to be an American citizen. That's why so many people still want to naturalize. "你这个评论很有意思。按照这种逻辑,人人都想当贪官,就证明腐败是好制度了。
回复欢颜展卷林中闲坐的评论:
Some people compare Three Years of Disaster to Naking Massacre, and say Communist China kills more people than Naking Massacre. Such a comparing is totally wrong. It was true that many people died during Cultural Revolution and Communist government was responsible for that. Chinese people and Communist Party have all admitted that. Just like every year many people died of gun crime in US. US people and government admit the fact and everybody know that it’s the reasonability of US government to reduce the gun crimes. Saying Communist China kills more people than Nanking massacre, however, is just the same as saying democratic America kills more American than 911 attract. As every year about 10 thousands of American was killed in gun crimes.
The difference between Culture Revelation as well as three years of disaster and Nanking massacre is just the same as between US gun crimes and 911. One is due to social instability and bad government policies, and other is due to foreign invasion. During Culture Revolution, the death rate is much higher for government officials and CCP officials than the rate in other group. Saying communist China kills more people than Nanking massacre is just the same as saying Democratic America is killing more America than 911. During three years of disaster, many poor Chinese died of hunger, Chinese people know that, and Chinese government know that, and they all know something is not correct, just like US people know that so many gun crimes in US is not correct. There are more poor people died in three years of disaster than government officials is just like there are more poor people fall as gun crimes victims in US. There must be some communists died during three years of disasters, and many who died have relatives as communists. As we know, during civil war in China, it was the most poor who joint the Communist Party. 1959 was only 10 year after civil war and majority of Chinese population was still in countryside. At that time, most of government and party officials were come from the countryside and come from poor families. If there are someone who wants to killed Chinese people intentionally during 1959-1961 and Cultural Revolution, then it should be United States and Soviet Union. They succeed in putting economic sanction on China, which led to humanitarian disasters indirectly.
Communist China is bad. Chinese know it. But Chinese are not foolish enough to overthrow it, as they know that the present China is still the best among all other forms of governments they tried since Opium War. Since Opium War, Chinese tried democracy under Sun Yet-sent but all the Western countries, including democratic ones, just support local war lords in China to extent their state interest at the expense of Chinese democracy and at the expense of Chinese people. That’s why Dr. Sun turned to Soviet and welcomed Communist in China.
In the last a few decades, poverty population reduced all over the world, and China made the number one contribution in reducing world poverty. Many poor peasants of yesterday are rich entrepreneurs today in China, thanks to market economy adapted by Communist China. Regardless the label put on China as communist or capitalist, the present Chinese government works for the better of China and the world.
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The death of American citizens is in the thousands in Iraq war. Iraqis are not American voters, so democratic principles don't apply to them. i.e. no vote, no representation (of your interest).
Flawed? yes. But it's good to be an American citizen. That's why so many people still want to naturalize.
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Democratic systems are self-correcting, when voters come to recognize, over time, it's in their interest to consider other group's interest. The punishment of not doing so is protests, strikes, and social unrest, which are born by many voters, so there is pressure to correct social injustice, but it will take time.
Slavery and Chinese Exclusion Acts are repelled w/o a revolution and recognized as wrong. Not so with Cultural Revolution.
Besides,your numbers are wrong. Mao caused the death of 40-50 million Chinese citizens, and many of them are elites which contributes greatly to society, which rarely occurred in a democratic system. Slaves and Chinese were not citizens (so can't vote) at that time, and they are less than 40 million.
In terms of game theory, democracy may produce sub-optimal payoff, but collectivism will produce the worse payoff (lose-lose). Because unchecked power always corrupt. China today is a good example. People distrust & is angry with the government, and the government oppresses people to benefit special interest groups. So the rich and powerful are ready to flee with their money due to fear, and social injustice and conflicts escalate. How can this be a good thing?
Prisoner's dilemma doesn't apply when games are repeated (so cheaters will be punished in the next round), and tic-for-tac is the best strategy.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/PrisonersDilemma.html7
Collectivism has historically led to tyranny within decades. Democracy is flawed, but has created less disasters than Collectivism .