最愚蠢(这词不是我选的)的一个理由是:除了枪,刀和车都能用作杀人工具,为什么只禁枪,而不禁刀、禁车?问出这样蠢的问题的人,我必须说,如果不是恶意搅局,那他的逻辑或智力测试一定不及格。我同意著名的科学哲学家道金斯在其推特文中做的判断:这是个最最最蠢的论点(the silliest of all the silly arguments of gun crazies)。我就直接借用道金斯的回复吧:“为什么禁枪而不禁卡车?这一定是拥枪狂们各种愚蠢论点中最最最蠢的论点了。卡车是为了其它用途而设计生产出来的,比如作为交通运输的工具。而军队的枪支,它唯一的用途就是杀人!”
回复 'tony933' 的评论 : 这位先生,我刚刚读了你的留言。我要提醒你,让小孩可以拿到枪并且自行用枪,在美国是犯法的。这些法律叫Child Access Prevention (CAP). CAP laws take a variety of forms. The strongest laws impose criminal liability when a minor is likely to gain access to a negligently stored firearm regardless of whether the minor actually gains access (California). The weakest merely prohibit certain persons, such as parents or guardians, from directly providing a firearm to a minor (Utah). 美国允许成年人买枪,但不允许被未成年人自行取得并使用。我相信你的用心是好的,但是,枪支泛滥的恶果很多就是从像你这样的成年人对枪支不好好保管,让它落到不应该有枪的小孩手中开始的。这就是为什么我认为对成年人也应该禁枪,除非特批。
我上面的话是针对你以下的留言:
(I've trained my 2 boys how to safely operate handguns and rifles when they were 12! They've always known where I kept the guns in the house and taught in case of emergency to grab the gun before calling 911!
And of course, I have a carry permit!)
回复 '大荣确' 的评论 : “军队枪支设计的用途是杀敌人;民间枪支设计的用途是自卫、狩猎或者体育。没有一种武器是设计用来滥杀无辜的。你的这位哲学家偷换概念的手段并不高明。枪能滥杀无辜不假,但卡车、飞机、球拍都可以用来滥杀无辜,但这些都是工具,使用工具杀人的人才是悲剧的根源。”很遗憾,你这些话就是道金斯所说的(我也同意的),是拥枪狂的各种论点中最最最愚蠢的论点,the silliest of all silly arguments。你最好能找点符合逻辑的理由来反驳我的观点,而不是不断重复这种silly argument。
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回复 '大荣确' 的评论 : 谢谢你指出被判的不是牧场主本人。我应该说的是那次的对峙事件中几个积极参与者已经被判刑(而不是这个牧场主)。比如这位被判68年监狱:On Wednesday, one of 17 defendants being tried for their part in the 2014 standoff between supporters of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management was sentenced to 68 years in prison. 我会修改我的文章中的这部分文字。谢谢你对这部分的指正。
The current Sheriff Scott Israel is a Democrat gun control supporter. In addition to ignored numerous reports on shooter from residents, he didn't take any action to provent shooting happen. During the shooting, he not only stopped 4 armed policemen from entering the school to neutralize the shooting first hand, but also delayed EMT people entering to save lives while those poor kids were bleeding and dying. Why ?
The only logic reason I can get is that the LEFT wanted to use children's blood to advance their gun control agenda.
CAIR LEADER NEZAR HAMZE IS NOW DEPUTY SHERIFF of Broward Sheriff’s Office (BSO)
First Jewish Sheriff of Broward County picks representative of terror group to wear gun and badge.
. The current Sheriff is Scott Israel; he was elected to office in November 2012. As Sheriff, Israel has made it a point to reach out to diverse crowds, including those who could be considered enemies of the U.S. and her allies.
Broward Sheriff Scott Israel’s 2015 radical Muslim tour began this past January, when he posed for photos with Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout and a member of Zakkout’s Miami-based AMANA group at a local mosque. Zakkout is a big supporter of Hamas. On his Facebook page, one can find Hamas logos and photos of Hamas militants and leaders, including Hamas founders Ahmed Yassin and Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi and deceased Hamas bomb maker Yehiya Ayyash.
In July 2014, Zakkout organized a pro-Hamas rally held in Downtown Miami, where the crowd chanted loudly a number of anti-Jewish and pro-Hamas slogans. Zakkout is shown on video with a huge grin on his face, as his mob repeatedly screams, “We are Hamas.” Following the rally, Zakkout wrote in Arabic on his Facebook page, “Thank God, every day we conquer the American Jews like our conquests over the Jews of Israel!”
The third stop of Sheriff Israel’s radical Muslim tour, which took place this month, led him to the Darul Uloom Mosque, located in Pembroke Pines, Florida. Darul Uloom has ties to a number of high-profile al-Qaeda terrorists.
CNN 从良了 居然连登几片内幕 大家去搜这个
How a first responder disregarded an order and saved a Florida school shooting victim's life
我就不懂了 哪个丧天良的会指派 救护人员da
把受伤的孩子 15岁以下 送到30mile路程的儿童医院
而17岁就可以送到10mile路程的医院!
哪个近送哪个啊 30mile 的开多久啊 杀人啊!
以孩子的 设身处地的为自己的孩子想一想
那个county 的警察得多丧尽天良!
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Deputy Sheriff, Nezar Hamze, is seen here teaching a mosque about the second amendment.
Nezar Hamze also works for CAIR.
Something stinks in Broward County. Broward 的警察Nezar Hamze,在教穆斯林美国的第二修正案-拥枪权。
On January 8, 2018, U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro dismissed with prejudice the criminal charges against Cliven Bundy, his sons Ammon and Ryan, and co-defendant Ryan Payne regarding the standoff. At that time she also scheduled a February 26, 2018 trial date for "Tier 3" defendants Melvin Bundy, Dave Bundy, Jason Woods and Joseph O'Shaughnessy. On February 7, 2018, the federal government motioned the court to dismiss with prejudice the indictments against the remaining defendants "in the interests of justice."
I've trained my 2 boys how to safely operate handguns and rifles when they were 12!
They've always known where I kept the guns in the house and taught in case of emergency to grab the gun before calling 911!
And of course, I have a carry permit!
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不想孩子们、孙子们成为下一个mass killing的受害者
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95-97% of mass shootings happened in those places of gun-free-zone. Why ban AR-15s not ban/get rid of gun-free-zone laws ?
Nobody, no government can completely ban any type or all types of weapons. Because when there is demand, any weapon can be easily obtained by either purchasing illegally from underground market or from other countries or stealing from law enforcement and military forces, or simply making at home.
Harden our schools is the only way to protect our children, not take guns away from law-abiding citizen.
Forliberty99 发表评论于
加强控枪力度
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1.The gun-control laws can only regulate and limit guns from law abiding citizens but not from real criminals because criminals do not obey laws. So the result of tougher gun control will put more guns into bad peoples hands.
2. Those who want tougher gun-control laws are the same people who want open border, sanctuary states and cities to protect illegal criminals over law- abiding citizens.
So, what is your goal as a gun-control supporter ? Arm more illegal criminals to genocide all legal citizens then build a banana republic for your children and grandchildren?
Forliberty99 发表评论于
No-brainers never understand:
1. Withou evil people, guns can't come out to shoot people automatically by themselves?
2.Nobody,? no government can absolutely control/ban any type or all types of guns. Black market will be always there .?Partially control/ban only put guns into criminals ' hands.
3. Nobody,? no government can completely stop human trafficking, illegal gun trafficking even the border wall is built.?
4.Nobody, no government can completely stop illegal gun making. CHINESE farmers could make guns in 1950s, with CNC machine 3D print, evil people can make all kinds of guns easily here whenever wherever needed.?Criminals do not obey laws.
So , how safe will it be when criminals have all kinds of guns, but law abiding citizens have nothing
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From CNN - continue
Each listed police call has a unique identifying number, dispatch date and time, and description. The descriptions include mentions of a "mentally ill person," "child/elderly abuse," "domestic disturbance," "missing person," and more.
Records show that in 2016, a neighbor warned the sheriff's office of an Instagram post in which Cruz said he "planned to shoot up the school." This week, Joelle Guarino told CNN she placed the 911 call and had begged the sheriff's office to intervene. She was told there was nothing deputies could do until Cruz actually did something, she said.
November 1, the day his mother died, Broward Sheriff's Office received a call from Lynda Cruz's cousin, who warned deputies that Cruz had rifles and pleaded for them to "recover these weapons." On November 30, the sheriff's office received a call from a tipster in Massachusetts who warned them Cruz was "collecting guns and knives," and "could be a school shooter in the making." Records show the deputy "referred caller to the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office,"
Since the attack, which killed 17, there have been multiple calls for the sheriff, a Democrat, to resign from his elected post.
———-CNN 要从良啦
左棍们 咋办?
It is really a "catch-22" situation! I don't see a real effective solution in near the future!
I'd put away all my guns only if you can deprive all guns from the criminals and the mentally ill people!
From CNN (leftist can say it now - fake news)
Sheriff says he got 23 calls about shooter's family, but records show more
Records obtained from the sheriff's office by CNN show the law enforcement agency received at least 45 calls for service relating to Cruz or his brother from 2008 to 2017, before the attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland on Feb. 14. The sheriff's office has insisted it received no more than 23 calls for service regarding Cruz or his family.
这些年猪党犯下的枪击案
2016. Democrat kills 49 in Orlando
2015. Democrat kills 12 in San bernardino
2013. Democrat kills 12 at Navy shipyard
2012. Democrat kills 26 in Sandy Hook
school
2012... Democrat kills 7 in Minnesota
2011. Democrat kills 12 Aurora movie
theater
2010... Democrat shoots Gabby Gifford
kills 12 in Arizona
2007 Democrat kills 32 at Virginia Tech
2003... Democrat kills 7 at lockheed-martin
Plant
2001.Democrat shoots at bush white
House
1999.Democrat kills 8 at Church Service
1995... Democrat kills 5 co-workers at Texas lab
1991.Democrat kills 23 at Luby 's cafe
Killeen, Tx
1990... Democrat kills 10 at GMAC office
1986.Democrat kills 15 at Oklahoma post
office
1984. Democrat kills 22 at mcdonald's
1983... Democrat shoots Pres. Reagan
1975. Democrat shoots at pres. ford
1963. Socialist shoots Pres. Kennedy
1865... Democrat kills Pres. Lincoln
GO AHEAD, FACT CHECK ME.