加拿大总理特鲁多1月31日就孟晚舟事件答听众问

西人资料中搜寻关于中国的点滴
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网上的一段视频,特鲁多在一次社区集会上回答一个听众问题的讲话(Trudeau said that at a town hall that took place at Craig Kielburger Secondary School in Milton, Ont. on Thursday night.),网址链接,我作了个翻译,跟通常的翻译一样,急就章,文辞欠推敲,只求翻出个大意,原文附后:

好极了!非常感谢雷问这个问题。这是一个非常热门的话题,涉及几个因素在里面。首先,你提到华为。我们知道我们转向。。。现在我们的手机系统都是4G,我们正在向5G转,5G的连接性将会更好,也更强大,但是也潜在地在安全方面更脆弱。这就是为什么我们要保证我们的网络安全专家跟世界各地的专家们来评估我们如何发展,才能保證加拿大人的安全,保证我们数据的安全,保证我们的机密通讯的安全。同时也保证我们能以可以负担的价格采用世界上最好的科技。要以负责任的方式来完成这一切,你不应该把政治引入你的思维方式。你必须采用一种深思熟虑、实事求是,建立在证据基础上的思维方式。这就是为什么我们委托我们的国家安全和情报机构进行分析,我们的专家和通讯专家进行必要的分析,然后就我们如何进行这项工作提出建议,以及,你懂的,哪家供应商,哪些公司可以成为5G网络的一部分。这是事情的一方面。另一个近来跟中国有关的问题是,两名加拿大人以国家安全的名义在中国被拘留。他们是紧接着一名中国公民,一名重要的中国公民在温哥华按美国发出的引渡令被拘留之后被拘留的。我们与美国有一个引渡协议,我们与世界上很多其它国家也有此类协议。根据这些协议,如果某人犯了某项在加拿大会判有罪的罪行,我们就会以我们的司法体系对其进行审判,然后基于我们独立、严格的司法体系做出是否将此人引渡到美国的决定。这个过程深深浸淫并根植于加拿大的以法治国和司法独立的理念中。中国政府要求我们释放这位重要的中国公民,干预我们独立的司法体系的运行。不同国家办事的方法不同,但是在加拿大,政界人物不会插手法庭程序,我们的司法体系是独立于政治压力和政治程序的,这是件好事!(听众鼓掌)坦率地说,这不仅是加拿大的法律和价值观的基石,也是世界上很多国家的基石,这些国家都是我们的朋友和盟友。自从中国给我们施加压力要释放他们的公民,同时相当任意地拘留我们的两名公民,我们一直与全世界我们的朋友和盟友进行接触,很广泛的各种国家,从我们传统的盟友到不是那么铁的盟友,都达成一致的认识,很多是私下地,也有很多是公开地,支持以法治国,支持那两名被拘留的加拿大人,以及任何其他在中加两国的外交或政治面临挑战时期到中国旅行的加拿大人。我们一定要让中国明白,加拿大将坚持法治,绝不动摇,也将遵守我们的国际协议和义务,并将始终把加拿大人的安全放在首位。这就是我们的立场(观众鼓掌)。当然,我们不希望事态升级。我们承认,中国是个极为重要并仍在上升的经济体,是世界舞台上的一个重要的演员。我们期待着继续与中国做贸易。但是我们需要中国当局明白,在法治方面,加拿大和很多其它国家将坚持原则,不会屈服于他们施加的政治压力。

Excellent! Thank you very much, Ray, for that question. It's a very topical issue that has a couple of elements to it. First of all, you mentioned Huawei.We know we’re moving towards...Right now  our cellular systems are all on 4G,we are moving towards 5G which will be significantly more connected, significantly more powerful but also potentially significantly more vulnerable around security concerns. And that’s why we’re making sure that our security experts are working with experts around the world to evaluate how we gonna move forward in a way that will ensure that we can continue to keep Canadians safe,make sure that our data is safe,make sure that our secure comunications are secure. But also make sure that we are taking on the best technology in the world at affordable prices. And navigating that in a responsible way is something you can’t really approach with a political mindset. you have to approach with a thoughtful, fact-based, evidence-based mindset. And that’s why we are trusting our national security and intelligence agencies to do the analysis ,our experts and communications experts to do the analysis necessary to make recommendations on how we move forward in that way,and you know, which providers, and who can be part of Canada’s 5G network. That’s on one side of things. The other issue that is come up recently with China is the situation where two Canadians have been detained in China on national security charges. They were detained immediately after a Chinese citizen, a prominent Chinese citizen was detained in Vancouver on an extradition order from the United States. Now, we have an extradition treaty with the United States like we do with all sorts of different countries around the world. And along with terms of those treaties if someone commits a crime that would be a crime in Canada we try them in our justice system and make a determination based on our independent, rigorous justice system on whether or not to extrdite them to the United States.This is a process that is steeped in and anchored in the rule of law and the independent justice system that Canada has. Now,the Chinese govement has been asking us to release that prominent Chinese citizen and interfere with the functioning of our independent judiciary. Now, different countries do things differently. But in Canada, politicians don’t get to weigh in on court proceedings. We have a judiciary that is independent of political pressures and political processes and that’s a good thing(applaud from the audience). It is something that, quite frankly,is a cornor stone of Canada of our laws and our values but it’s also a cornor stone of an awful lot of countries around the world who are our friends and allies. And while China has benn putting pressure on us to release their citizen this way, and detaining, somewhat arbitrarily, our own two citizens. We have been talking with our friends and allies around the world, a broad range of countries, from our traditional allies to less likely allies who are all very much in agreement, many of them privately, many of them publicly that standing up for the rule of law, standing up for the safety of Canadians those two Canadians detained right now,and any other Canadians who happen to travel to China when there might be challenge in diplomacy or political relationship between Canada and China. We need to make sure that China understands that Canada is going to unequivocally stand up for the rule of law, respect our international treaties and obligations and always put the safety of Canadians first. That is where we stand(audience applaud and cheer). But of course we don’t want to escalate. We recognize China is an extremely important and growing economy, a significant player on the world stage. We look forward to continuing to trade with China.But we need the Chinese authority to understand that when it comes to rule of law, Canada and an awful lot of other countries will stand firm regardless of the political pressures they put on us.  

 

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