柯博拉访谈｜20230422 玫瑰姐妹会访谈柯博拉-“光之门户开启”
2023年4月24日摘要
在这次采访中，柯博拉和黛布拉，玫瑰行星网络姐妹会的领导者，讨论了光之门户是如何开启的，是我们一生中最强大的开启！他们讨论了尽可能多的人参与即将到来的全球大规模冥想的重要性
Sisterhood of the Rose organized an interview with Cobra about the importance of the Portal of Light Activation taking place on May 1st, 2023.
玫瑰姐妹会在2023年5月1日组织了一次关于光之门户开启重要性的采访。
In this interview, Cobra and Debra, a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network, discuss how the Portal of Light Activation is literally the most powerful activation of our lifetimes! They discuss the importance of as many people as possible participating in the upcoming global mass meditation on May 1st at 5:06 pm UTC to reach critical mass so that these ultra-powerful energies coming through this rare portal will be anchored in the most balanced and harmonious way possible ... and what could be the consequences if critical mass is not achieved.
在这次采访中，柯博拉和黛布拉，玫瑰行星网络姐妹会的领导者，讨论了光之门户是如何开启的，是我们一生中最强大的开启！他们讨论了尽可能多的人参与即将到来的全球大规模冥想的重要性，在5月1日世界协调时间下午5:06达到临界质量，以便这些超级强大的能量通过这个罕见的门户将锚定在最平衡和和谐的方式可能... 以及如果临界质量没有达到的后果是什么。
It's important that as many people as possible participate on May 1st, so please spread the word!
尽可能多的人参加5月1日的活动是很重要的，所以请把这个消息传播出去！
For more information about this important activation, please visit
有关这项重要活动的详情，请浏览
This interview is Part 1 of a two-part series; Part 2 will be released sometime next month so stay tuned for that!
这次采访是一个两部分系列的第1部分; 第2部分将在下个月的某个时候发布，所以请继续关注！
You can listen to the interview on the Sisterhood of the Rose YouTube channel here:
你可以点击这里收听"玫瑰姐妹会"YouTube 频道的采访:
Sisterhood of the Rose Interview with Cobra: "Portal of Light Activation"
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Below is the transcript of the interview:
以下是采访的文字记录:
Debra: Hello, my name is Debra, and I'm a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network. Today I once again have the pleasure to speak with Cobra. Cobra is the chief intel provider for the resistance movement, where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog, 2012portal.blogspot.com. Welcome, Cobra, and thank you for doing this interview.
黛布拉:你好，我叫黛布拉，我是玫瑰行星网络姐妹会的领导者。今天我再次有幸与柯博拉谈话。柯博拉是抵抗运动的主要情报提供者，他在自己的博客2012portal.blogspot.com 上提供重要的行星和银河信息。欢迎，柯博拉，谢谢你接受采访。
Cobra:Thank you for the invitation. It's really a great opportunity to deepen our connection with a portal which is coming very soon.
柯博拉：谢谢你的邀请。这真的是一个很好的机会来加深我们与一个即将到来的门户的联系。
Debra: Yes! This very important portal – I know we have a lot to talk about – but this Portal of Light activation is of primary importance, along with the global mass meditation that will be taking place during this alignment on May 1st, 2023 coming up. So we've actually decided to do this interview in two parts. The first part that we are doing today will focus primarily on discussing this very important Portal of Light activation, and then next month for the second part, we'll discuss the results of this activation as well as many other topics of interest to people. So let's get started.
黛布拉:是的！这个非常重要的门户——我知道我们有很多要谈的——但是这个光之门户的开启是首要的重要的，随着全球大众冥想将在2023年5月1日这个排列期间发生。所以我们决定把这次采访分成两部分。我们今天所做的第一部分主要是讨论这个非常重要的光之门户的开启，然后下个月的第二部分，我们将讨论这个开启的结果以及许多其他人们感兴趣的话题。我们开始吧。
Cobra, you have stated that this Portal of Light activation will bring the energies of the Age of Aquarius to the next level, and that this is literally the most powerful activation of our lifetime. So to start out, would you please explain to our audience what exactly is the Portal of Light activation?
柯博拉，你已经说过，这个光之门户的开启将把水瓶座时代的能量带到下一个层次，而且这确实是我们一生中最强大的开启。首先，请你向观众们解释一下光之门户的开启到底是什么？
Cobra:Okay. This is, I would say, the first major step that we are taking towards our final liberation. Everything until now was just preparation. Everything until now was just a rehearsal, but now we are getting into some serious activity from the Galactic Central Sun. We are getting into some serious shifting of the cosmic cycles. And this is, I will say, the first real step that we're taking right now. So this is energetically going to be huge. It's going to set the course of the liberation process for this planet on a much higher level.
柯博拉：好的。我想说，这是我们朝着最终解放迈出的第一大步。直到现在，一切都只是准备。直到现在，一切都只是一次彩排，但是现在我们正在进入一些来自银河中央太阳的严重活动。我们正在进入宇宙周期的某种严重变化。我要说，这是我们现在真正迈出的第一步。所以从能量上来说，这将是巨大的。它将为这个星球的解放进程设定一个更高的层次。
Debra: Wow. You've mentioned that this activation comes at the moment of the completion of a very powerful cycle. Is this the current cosmic cycle of 13 billion years that you've previously written about that will be coming to an end? And if so, what does that mean?
黛布拉:哇。您已经提到，这个开启来自于一个非常强大的周期完成的时刻。这就是你之前所写的130亿年的宇宙周期即将结束吗？如果是这样，那意味着什么？
Cobra:No, it's another cycle that I'm not…it's not the purpose to talk about. So it's not this cosmic cycle. There is another cycle which is ending basically a few days before May 1st.
柯博拉：不，这是另一个周期，我不是... ... 这不是谈论的目的。所以不是这个宇宙循环。另一个周期基本上在5月1日前几天结束。
Debra: Interesting, okay. So you've indicated that this activation is a demarcation point when the energy from the Galactic Center will finally begin to flow toward the surface of the planet with great force, which is wonderful to hear. Now, we understand that at the time of the Event, it will be Source who sends the solar flash through our Galactic Center, but for this initial flow of energy from the Galactic Center on May 1st, is it also Source initiating it? Will our planet be able to receive and be in contact with the Source energy for the very first time?
黛布拉:有意思。所以你们已经指出这种开启是一个分界点当来自银河系中心的能量最终开始以巨大的力量流向行星表面，这听起来很美妙。现在，我们知道在事件发生的时候，是源头将太阳闪光发送到我们的银河系中心，但是对于5月1日来自银河系中心的初始能量流来说，它也是源头发起的吗？我们的星球能够第一次接收并接触到源头能量吗？
Cobra:The Source will initiate this energy, but then it'll be downgraded and downplayed to the level that this planetary environment can accept and absorb. So we are not at a point yet to receive energy directly from the Source, but this is actually a good step towards that.
柯博拉：源头会启动这个能量，但是之后它会被降级，降低到这个行星环境可以接受和吸收的水平。所以我们还没有达到直接从源头接收能量的地步，但这实际上是朝着那个方向迈出的很好的一步。
Debra: Okay, so it will be like a buffered energy.
黛布拉:好的，所以它会像一个缓冲能量。
Cobra:Yes. Yes.
柯博拉：是的，是的。
Debra: Our last big mass meditation was the Divine Intervention activation that took place on the December 2021 solstice, in which we meditated for Divine Intervention and First Contact with benevolent galactic beings. So, did the success of that meditation have anything to do with the opening of this immense energetic portal on May 1st? Or what about the monthly full Moon meditations that we continue to do for divine intervention? Are they helping to create this powerful flow of energy that we are about to experience? Because it sure feels like there could be some divine intervention taking place!
黛布拉:
我们上一次大规模的冥想是发生在2021年12月至日的神圣干预活动，在那次冥想中，我们为神圣干预和与仁慈的星系生命的第一次接触进行了冥想。那么，那次冥想的成功与5月1日这个巨大的能量门户的开启有关系吗？或者说，我们继续为神圣的干预而进行的每月一次的满月冥想又是怎么回事？它们是否有助于创造我们即将经历的这种强大的能量流？因为它确实感觉到可能有一些神圣的干预正在发生
Cobra:The Divine Intervention activation in December 2021 was actually the third in the row of meditations that were preparing for the initialization of the Age of Aquarius. And the astrological positioning for the activation in December 2021 is in a way similar to what we're going to experience now, and we are already experiencing it. So this is another step deeper into activating the Age of Aquarius. So all that was just preparation for what we are experiencing now. All those meditations, all three of those activations for the Age of Aquarius and all the full Moon meditations since then, were preparing us for this step. And the conditions for the direct divine intervention need to be ready, the situation needs to be safe, the situation needs to be balanced enough, and this hasn't happened yet, but we are getting closer to that.
柯博拉：2021年12月的神圣干预激活实际上是为水瓶座时代的初始化做准备的那一排冥想中的第三个。而2021年12月的激活的星象定位在某种程度上与我们现在要经历的相似，而且我们已经在经历了。所以这是激活水瓶座时代的另一个更深入的步骤。所以所有这些只是为我们现在所经历的做准备。所有这些冥想，所有三个水瓶座时代的激活，以及此后所有的满月冥想，都是在为我们这一步做准备。而直接的神圣干预的条件需要准备好，情况需要安全，情况需要足够的平衡，这还没有发生，但我们越来越接近于此。
Debra: Okay, good. Well, we like the idea of getting closer to all of that. Since the flash of cosmic love energies for this Portal of Light activation will be much more powerful than the flash which reached the Earth from the M87 galaxy during the AION portal activation in 2013, and also the flash which happened during the final Age of Aquarius activation in 2020, what can people expect to feel during and after this activation, especially for those who are meditating? Is it possible that powerful emotional healing and energetic healing will occur during this meditation?
黛布拉:好的，很好。我们喜欢接近这一切的想法。既然这次光之门户开启的宇宙爱的能量闪光将比2013年 AION 门户开启时从 M87星系到达地球的闪光强大得多，也比2020年最后一次水瓶座时代开启时发生的闪光强大得多，那么在这次开启期间和之后，人们还能期望感受到什么，尤其是对那些正在冥想的人来说？有没有可能在这次冥想中发生强大的情绪疗愈和能量疗愈？
Cobra:Each person meditating will have his or her own individual experience, which will be quite different based on their level of evolvement, based on their personality structure and level of readiness to receive such energies. And some people might experience quite powerful emotional, spiritual, and healing situations and experiences. Some people have already experienced that in the past activations. And this time it is expected to be even stronger because the flash, which happens exactly during the activation, is expected to be stronger.
柯博拉：每个冥想的人都会有他或她自己的个人体验，根据他们的进化水平，根据他们的人格结构和接受这些能量的准备程度，这些体验将是非常不同的。有些人可能会经历相当强大的情感，精神和治愈的情况和经验。有些人在过去的开启中已经经历过了。这一次，它预计将更强，因为闪光，这发生在开启期间，预计将更强。
Debra: Now, already a year ago in one of your posts, you alluded to the opening of a huge energy portal on the surface of the planet that would take place in late April/early May of 2023, indicating at that time that it will definitely be the strongest energetic event in the last few decades. So will the strength of this event, this flash, is it possible that it could create a Carrington-type event, which we understand to be a massive geomagnetic storm? Could that occur during this May 1st activation, or could any other physical effects be witnessed?
黛布拉:现在，一年前，在你的一篇文章中，你提到将于2023年4月底/5月初在地球表面打开一个巨大的能量门户，这表明那时它肯定会是过去几十年中最强大的能量事件。那么，这次事件的强度，这次闪光，有没有可能产生一次卡林顿式的事件，我们认为是一次巨大的磁暴？这可能发生在5月1日的开启期间，或者可以看到任何其他物理效应？
Cobra:At this point, it is expected to be just an energetic event, there are no expectations for a physical manifestation like a Carrington event. Actually, a Carrington-type event would not be welcome at this point, it's not the highest purpose for this to happen. The Light Forces are still buffering the activity of the sun to a certain degree with the Dyson spheres because a Carrington-type event right now would take down the electrical grid, would take down the internet, and this is not what the Light Forces want at this point.
柯博拉：在这一点上，预计它只是一个能量事件，没有期望像卡林顿事件的物理表现。事实上，卡林顿类型的事件在这一点上是不受欢迎的，这不是发生这种事件的最高目的。光明势力仍然在某种程度上用戴森球体来缓冲太阳的活动，因为现在卡林顿式的事件会毁掉电网，会毁掉互联网这不是光明势力想要的。
Debra: Are those Dyson spheres, are they completed yet? I know they were initiated.
黛布拉:那些戴森球体，它们完成了吗? 我知道它们已经启动了。
Cobra:They are completed.
柯博拉：他们完成了。
Debra: They are completed, okay, good to know. You've indicated that this pulse will actually create an energetic upgrade for the whole planet. Will this energetic upgrade finally dissolve the black hole quantum anomaly around Earth and reactivate the Ascension process for this planet through the positive spiritual energy from the Buddhic plane? What type of cleansing will this energy do?
黛布拉:他们完成了，好的，很高兴知道。你已经表明这个脉冲实际上将为整个星球创造一个能量升级。这个能量提升是否会最终消除地球周围的黑洞量子异常，并通过来自佛教层面的正面灵性能量重新开启这个星球的扬升过程？这种能量将做什么类型的净化？
Cobra:Okay, I am not allowed to speak about the direct effects of this energy on different exotic technologies. But definitely after the activation, I will issue a report of what has happened and what has been cleared. But definitely this energy will clear a lot of anomaly, a lot of negative technologies, a lot of what has been here for thousands and thousands of years. A lot of quarantine structure, which has been in place for the last 26,000 years. A lot of that will be removed.
柯博拉：好的，我不被允许谈论这种能量对不同的异国技术的直接影响。但肯定的是，在激活之后，我将发布一份报告，说明发生了什么，哪些被清除了。但肯定的是，这种能量将清除很多异常现象，很多负面的技术，很多已经在这里存在了几千年和几千年的东西。大量的隔离结构，在过去的26000年里一直存在。大量的东西将被清除。
Debra: Wow, fantastic. Okay, good. Does this mean that the tachyons present in large numbers and space will finally be able to surge massively inside our atmosphere until they reach the surface population improving the energetic well-being of humans to some extent? Is this precisely the energetic upgrading of our planet you're talking about, or that at least what you can tell us about at this time?
黛布拉:哇，太棒了。好的，很好。这是否意味着大量存在于空间中的超光子最终将能够在我们的大气层中大规模激增，直到它们到达地表人口，在某种程度上改善人类的能量福祉？这就是你所说的地球能量的升级，或者至少你现在能告诉我们的？
Cobra:The tachyons will not be able to reach the surface of the planet yet because the tachyons will only be able to completely reach the surface of the planet at the moment of the Event when the last remnant of the veil is removed.
柯博拉：超光速粒子还不能到达行星表面因为超光速粒子只有在事件发生的那一刻才能完全到达行星表面当最后的遗迹被揭开的时候。
Debra: Will there be any upgrade because of this activation with tachyon chambers or using tachyonized products?
黛布拉:会不会因为超光速粒子室的开启或者使用超光速产品而升级呢？
Cobra:Yes, tachyon chambers will receive an upgrade, they will become more powerful, more effective. Also tachyon products that will be tachyonized after that moment will be actually, it'll be an upgrade for all the tachyonized technology.
柯博拉：是的，超光速粒子室将得到升级，它们将变得更强大，更有效。在那一刻之后被超光速粒子化的超光速粒子产品也将成为现实，它将是所有超光速技术的升级。
Debra: Oh, good. Okay, good to know. Does the Portal of Light activation initiate the true terminal process of purification of anomalies leading to apocatastasis, which is the moment when all quantum and subquantum anomaly will be cleared and all evil consciousness either transformed into the light or annihilated in the Central Sun…in other words, the Event? Would you say this is like a pre-Event?
黛布拉:哦，太好了。好的，很高兴知道。光之门户的开启是否启动了净化异常导致末世的真正终极过程，也就是所有量子和亚量子异常将被清除的时刻，所有邪恶意识要么转化为光，要么在中央太阳中湮灭... 换句话说，事件？你觉得这是预演吗？
Cobra:I would say this is a trigger, it is a demarcation point. This is a trigger which ends a certain phase, a certain cycle, and actually initiates, I would say, the last phase before the Event.
柯博拉：我会说这是一个触发器，它是一个分界点。这是一个触发器，它结束了一个特定的阶段，一个特定的周期，并且实际上启动了，我会说，事件之前的最后一个阶段。
Debra: Okay, good. Now, for the first time in the history of global meditations, the critical mass to be reached is not the determining criterion for the cosmic energy pulse to reach the planet's surface; for as you've said, whether the critical mass is reached or not, these ultra-powerful energies from the Galactic Center will reach the surface of the planet anyway – which actually shows the extent of this impulse. But nevertheless, it is essential that we absolutely reach the necessary critical mass of 144,000 people meditating on that day, in order to anchor this incoming energy in a balanced way, to ensure the fastest and most harmonious transition for the planet and to create the energetic upgrade. Now without critical mass, the power of these energies can manifest in a much more chaotic and disharmonious way. So the critical mass determines HOW this energy is going to be anchored on the surface of the planet, either in a balanced way or in a disharmonious way. And we naturally want it to be anchored in the most balanced way possible, both for the operations of the Light Forces and for the safety and wellbeing of the surface population. So, Cobra, would you elaborate a bit more about the impacts of reaching critical mass or the consequences if we do not?
黛布拉:好的，很好。现在，在全球冥想史上第一次，达到临界质量并不是宇宙能量脉冲到达行星表面的决定性标准; 因为正如你所说，不管达到临界质量与否，这些来自银河中心的超强能量无论如何都会到达行星表面——这实际上显示了这种脉冲的程度。然而，至关重要的是，我们必须在那一天绝对达到144000人冥想的必要临界数量，以便以平衡的方式锚定这种输入的能量，确保地球最快和最和谐的过渡，并创造能量升级。现在没有临界质量，这些能量的力量可以以一种更加混乱和不和谐的方式表现出来。因此，临界质量决定了这种能量将如何锚定在行星表面，要么以一种平衡的方式，要么以一种不和谐的方式。我们当然希望它能以最平衡的方式固定下来，这既是为了光明势力的行动，也是为了地表居民的安全和福祉。那么，柯博拉，你能详细说明一下达到临界质量的影响还是如果我们不达到临界质量的后果？
Cobra:Okay. If we reach the critical mass, as I said before, we will have a much more harmonious transition, it'll actually accelerate also the transition itself. So I would say with reaching the critical mass, we will be on the optimal timeline. If we do not reach the critical mass, we will have more chaos, which will reflect both in geopolitical situations, it will reflect in financial markets. It will reflect in individual life situations of people on the surface of the planet.
柯博拉：好的。如果我们达到临界质量，就像我之前说的，我们将有一个更加和谐的过渡，它实际上也会加速过渡本身。所以我想说，达到临界质量后，我们将处于最佳时间线上。如果我们没有达到临界点，我们将面临更多的混乱，这将反映在地缘政治局势中，也将反映在金融市场中。它将反映在地球表面人们的个人生活状况中。
Debra: Well, that right there is motivation to meditate on the 1st of May! 20 minutes of your time is very well worth it, I would say. And of course, spread the word, of course. So when we meditate for the Portal of Light activation on May 1st, will we serve as breakthrough energy transmitters at the time of activation so that these ultra-powerful energies from the Galactic Center can reach the surface in a most balanced and harmonious way?
黛布拉:嗯，这就是在5月1日冥想的动机！我得说，你20分钟的时间非常值得。当然，还要散播消息。因此，当我们在5月1日冥想开启光之门户时，我们是否会在开启时充当突破性的能量传送器，以便这些来自银河系中心的超强能量能够以最平衡、最和谐的方式到达地表？
Cobra:Exactly. This is a very good description of what will happen.
柯博拉：没错。这是对将要发生的事情的一个很好的描述。
Debra: Okay, good. We are those energy transmitters. What are your suggestions of how we might prepare ourselves for this to be the most effective?
黛布拉:好的，很好。我们就是那些能量传送器。你对我们如何做好准备，使这项工作最为有效有什么建议？
Cobra:I would say the most important thing is to make sure that you will not be disturbed, that you have created a safe and sacred space for this meditation. And of course to spread the word to reach as many people as possible.
柯博拉：我想说最重要的是确保你不会被打扰，你已经为这次冥想创造了一个安全和神圣的空间。当然还要把消息传播给尽可能多的人。
Debra: Absolutely. You had also mentioned, you did a recent interview with We Love Mass Meditation and you mentioned the benefits of being in water or near water, or possibly on a mountaintop. Would you speak to why those are so powerful?
黛布拉:当然。你还提到，你最近接受了我们爱大众冥想的采访，你提到了在水中或水边，或者可能在山顶上的好处。你能解释一下为什么它们如此强大吗？
Cobra:Okay. Being near water is, if you are near water, near the ocean or near a lake or near a river, you will be able to transmit that energy of the portal directly throughout the planet because water is a very good transmitter of energies of light. Also, being on a top of a mountain creates a good connection with the sky, and then you are acting as a very effective transmitter for those energies as well.
柯博拉：好的。靠近水，如果你靠近水，靠近海洋或者靠近湖泊或者靠近河流，你将能够直接将门户的能量传输到整个星球，因为水是一个非常好的光能传输器。此外，在山顶上创建一个良好的连接与天空，然后你作为一个非常有效的发射器，这些能量以及。
Debra: Is it because of being in nature? Or, with the concept of water, if someone doesn't have access to, let's say, a lake or an ocean or a river, would taking a bath have that same effect or at least help?
黛布拉:是因为身处大自然吗？或者，根据水的概念，如果有人没有接触到，比如说，一个湖泊，一片海洋或者一条河流，洗个澡会有同样的效果或者至少有帮助吗？
Cobra:It would have some effect, but not the same. But I would say most people can get to real, natural body of water if they take a little bit of effort.
柯博拉：会有一些效果，但不一样。但是我想说，大多数人只要稍微努力一点，就能到达真正的、自然的水域。
Debra: Okay, good to keep in mind. Will the positive impact of this activation increase exponentially based on the number of people meditating at the exact moment on May 1st? Meaning that the more people that participate, the more positive and harmonious the results will be?
黛布拉:好的，记住了。这种开启的积极影响是否会根据5月1日那一刻冥想的人数呈指数增长？也就是说，参与的人越多，结果就越积极和谐？
Cobra:I would not say exponentially, it's a very complicated equation, but I would say the more people we have, obviously the more effective it will be.
柯博拉：我不会说是指数级的，这是一个非常复杂的方程式，但我会说，我们的人越多，显然就会越有效。
Debra: Okay, good to know. So let's go for a million or more meditators on that day! Now we recently did a booster meditation to help manifest critical mass on May 1st. Would it be beneficial for people to continue to do this booster meditation daily until the time of the activation on May 1st?
黛布拉:好的，很高兴知道。因此，让我们在那一天进行一百万或更多的冥想！现在，我们最近做了一个加强冥想，以帮助在5月1日显化临界质量。对于人们来说，继续每天进行这种强化冥想直到5月1日开启为止是否有益？
Cobra:That is actually a good idea, and those who feel so guided can use that booster meditation to increase the numbers as well.
柯博拉：这实际上是个好主意，那些感觉如此被引导的人也可以利用加强冥想来增加数量。
Debra: Okay. Was that booster successful?
黛布拉:好的。助推冥想成功了吗？
Cobra:Yes, it was very good. Actually, we noticed some spike in activity preparing for the meditation, for the main meditation. So it was quite effective.
柯博拉：是的，非常好。事实上，我们注意到一些活动在为冥想做准备，为主要的冥想做准备。所以很有效。
Debra: Fantastic. You mentioned in your recent interview that using a cintamani stone during the meditation is definitely the most powerful tool that you can use to ground and channel this energy. Does using more than one cintamani stone magnify that energy even more? And will the galactic pulse on May 1st actually flow through our cintamani stones?
黛布拉:太棒了。你在最近的采访中提到，在冥想过程中使用如意宝珠绝对是最有力的工具，你可以使用它来打磨和引导这种能量。是否使用一个以上的仙人掌石放大能量甚至更多？5月1日的银河脉冲真的会流经我们的如意宝珠吗？
Cobra:Yes, of course. Using more than one cintamani stone does magnify the energy, and yes, the energy of the galactic pulse will flow directly through your cintamani stones.
柯博拉：是的，当然。使用一个以上的如意宝珠确实放大了能量，是的，银河脉冲的能量将直接流经你的如意宝珠。
Debra: Beautiful. And you also mentioned in that interview that this energetic upgrade will begin to reactivate again the Lightworker grid on the surface of the planet. So when you say "again", when was the last time the Lightworker grid was activated, and what effect could Lightworkers expect from this reactivation of the grid?
黛布拉:真漂亮。你们也在那次采访中提到，这个能量升级将开始重新开启地球表面的光工作者网格。所以当你说"再一次"时，光之工作者网格最后一次被开启是什么时候，光之工作者期望从这个网格的重新开启中得到什么效果？
Cobra:The Lightworker grid was, I would say, partially activated in the last decade or so before it was almost completely destroyed or collapsed in the last few years, because there was simply too much darkness, too many attacks, and the Lightworkers were not willing or able to hold the light.
柯博拉：我想说，光之工作者网格在过去十年左右的时间里被部分开启，直到最近几年几乎完全被摧毁或崩溃，因为有太多的黑暗，太多的攻击，光之工作者不愿意或者不能够持有光。
Debra: And so what effect could Lighworkers expect when this grid is reactivated?
黛布拉:那么当这个网格被重新开启时，光之工作者能期待什么样的效果呢？
Cobra:There will be more light. People will begin to reconnect again. They will begin to hold the light again. They will begin to participate in Lightworker activities again, there will be a renewed hope and a renewed activity.
Debra: Okay, good. You also said that much more contact between Lightworkers and Beings of Light is expected. Are you referring to telepathic contact, increased intuition, or do you mean actual physical contact? And you also mentioned the opportunity for the underground Kingdom of Light, the Agarthan network, and the Resistance Movement to have more influence on what's happening on the surface of the planet. What will that influence look like?
黛布拉:会有更多的光。人们会重新联系起来。他们将重新掌握光明。他们将再次开始参与光之工作者的活动，将会有一个新的希望和一个新的活动。好的，很好。你也说过更多的光之工作者和光之存有之间的接触是可以期待的。你指的是心灵感应，增强的直觉，还是实际的身体接触？你还提到了地下光明王国，阿加森网络，以及抵抗运动对地球表面发生的事情产生更大影响的机会。这种影响会是什么样的呢？
Cobra:Yes. First, there will be more, I would say, energetic and also telepathic contact with Beings of Light. There will be more intuition, there will be visions, dreams, prophetic dreams even. There will be a lot of inspiration, spiritual inspiration. I am not expecting much physical contact at this point yet, but I would say that underground Beings of Light will become more active. They will become more involved again in the surface operations. This is, of course, still classified at this point what they will do, but they are also preparing for this activation, and they are already participating in the initial activities, both below the surface and in some other locations as well.
柯博拉：是的。首先，将会有更多的，我会说，能量和心灵感应与光之存有的接触。会有更多的直觉，会有幻觉，梦想，甚至预言性的梦想。会有很多灵感，精神上的灵感。我并不期望在这一点上有太多的身体接触，但我想说的是，地下的光之存有将变得更加活跃。他们将再次更多地参与到地面行动中来。当然，在这一点上他们将要做什么仍然是分类的，但是他们也在为这次开启做准备，他们已经参与了最初的活动，不仅在表面之下，而且在其他一些地方也是如此。
Debra: Very good to hear. Let's talk about the astrology of this Portal of Light activation. Of key importance was the return of Pluto into Aquarius on March 23rd. For the first time, after more than 200 years, which opened this portal of light. Now, Pluto will reach its peak intensity on May 1st when it turns retrograde, a moment of stillness and "no breath", which is when the meditation is scheduled and when the most powerful energies can enter. Then Pluto will slowly phase out until June 11th when it exits Aquarius and goes back into Capricorn until 2024, when it will then finally return to Aquarius to stay for the next 20 years. So this portal of light is now open from March 23rd to June 11th. So how can we make the most of these energies? What can we do collectively and individually during this time before the portal closes on June 11th?
黛布拉:很高兴听你这么说。让我们来谈谈这个光之门户开启的占星术。最重要的是冥王星在3月23日返回水瓶座。200多年后，第一次打开了这个光之门户。现在，冥王星将在5月1日逆行时达到其最高强度，这是一个静止和"没有呼吸"的时刻，这是冥想计划的时间，也是最强大的能量可以进入的时候。然后冥王星将慢慢退出，直到6月11日，当它退出水瓶座，回到摩羯座，直到2024年，然后它将最终回到水瓶座停留20年。所以这个光之门户现在从3月23日到6月11日开启。那么我们怎样才能最大限度地利用这些能量呢？在门户网站于6月11日关闭之前，我们可以集体和单独做些什么？
Cobra:This time is an opportunity for you to reconnect again with your higher self, with your I AM presence, with your soul. This is number one. And number two, due to the positioning of Pluto making a very beautiful trine with the Pleiades, it is time for you, if you feel so guided, to connect with the Pleiadian energy as well.
柯博拉：这次是一个机会，让你再次与你的更高自我，与你的"我是存在"，与你的灵魂连接起来。这是第一个。第二，由于冥王星与昴宿星的定位，形成了一个非常美丽的三分相，是时候让你们，如果你们感到如此被引导的话，连接昴宿星的能量了。
Debra: Okay, good. Will the energies received during this activation period be strong enough to stay with us, or will they dissipate over the rest of the year when Pluto returns into the more challenging sign of Capricorn?
黛布拉:好的，很好。在这个开启期间接收到的能量是否足够强大，能够留在我们身边，或者当冥王星回到摩羯座更具挑战性的星座时，它们会在今年剩下的时间里消散吗？
Cobra:As the old saying goes, we make two steps forward and one step back. So there will be, I would say, a delay, a regress. There will be a certain period when those energies need to be integrated. And this is expected to happen when Pluto returns back into Capricorn for the rest of the year. But this regress will not be so drastic, because the activation itself will be quite strong and a lot of this energy will be integrated. But this regress will actually be an opportunity for everybody to work on their shadows and prepare for the final push until the Event.
柯博拉：俗话说，我们前进两步，后退一步。因此，我想说，会有一个延迟，一个倒退。将会有一段时期，这些能量需要被整合。当冥王星在今年余下的时间里回到摩羯座时，这预计会发生。但这种倒退不会那么剧烈，因为激活本身将是相当强大的，很多这种能量将被整合。但这种倒退实际上将是一个机会，让每个人都能在自己的阴影下工作，为最后的推动做准备，直到事件的发生。
Debra: Hmm, interesting. Yes, there is a lot of shadow work that people need to do at this point in clearing themselves. When Pluto comes back in 2024, will it really then kind of come in full force? You know, after having gone back into Capricorn?
黛布拉:
嗯，有意思。是的，在这一点上，人们需要做大量的阴影工作来清除自己。当冥王星在2024年回来的时候，它是否真的会全面到来？你知道，在回到摩羯座之后？
Cobra:There is a short dip into Capricorn again at the end of, I would say between September and November, 2024. But it will be a very brief episode. But basically, yes. When Pluto enters Aquarius again in January, 2024, it will be a big push forward towards the First Contact and the Event.
柯博拉：在2024年9月到11月之间，摩羯座会有一次短暂的下跌。但这将是一个非常短暂的插曲。但基本上，是的。当冥王星在2024年1月再次进入水瓶座时，这将是对第一次接触和事件的一个巨大推进。
Debra: Okay, good. At the moment of the activation, as you mentioned, Pluto will make a rare, exact grand trine with Alcyone, which is our local central sun in the Pleiades, and with the M87 galaxy, which is a major galaxy in the Virgo cluster. You have said that this grand trine is extremely powerful. It will be the trigger that will allow the energies from the Galactic Center to start flowing to our planet freely. Is this because it is an exact equilateral triangle, which is a sacred geometry shape? Is it powerful because this energy is flowing through a giant triangle?
黛布拉:好的，很好。在开启的那一刻，正如你所提到的，冥王星将与 Alcyone (我们在昴宿星团的本地中央太阳)和 m87星系(室女座星系团中的一个主要星系)形成一个罕见的、精确的三分相。你曾经说过，这个大三角非常强大。这将是一个触发器，将允许来自银河系中心的能量开始自由地流向我们的星球。这是因为它是一个精确的正三角形，这是一个神圣的几何形状？是因为能量流经一个巨大的三角形，所以它很强大吗？
Cobra:If you look from the Earth you could actually see a big triangle on the ecliptic projecting the energies of Pluto, Alcyone, and M87 galaxy. So actually, there is a huge triangle which focuses on Earth, and this huge triangle has three very powerful cosmic sources. And those sources combine their energies into a huge energy flash, which will come to us. Actually those three cosmic sources forming a triangle allow the portal to open and the Source to send the flash through the universe that reaches the Earth at the optimal time to trigger the next phase. It's a demarcation point.
柯博拉：如果你从地球上看，你实际上可以看到黄道上的一个大三角投射出冥王星，昴宿六
和 M87星系的能量。实际上，有一个巨大的三角形聚焦在地球上，这个巨大的三角形有三个非常强大的宇宙来源。这些源头将它们的能量结合成一个巨大的能量闪光，它会来到我们身边。实际上，这三个宇宙源形成了一个三角形，允许传送门打开，源头通过宇宙发送闪光，在最佳时间到达地球，触发下一阶段。这是一个分界点。
Debra: Thank you for explaining that. You've indicated that the M87 galaxy is a source of galactic love for this sector of the universe, and will play an important role at the time of the Event. Would you tell us more about the M87 galaxy? Like how is it a source of galactic love? Is it inhabited? Does it have civilizations that are highly evolved, and if so, which dimension are they living?
黛布拉:谢谢你的解释。你已经指出 M87星系是银河系对宇宙这个区域爱的源泉，并将在事件发生时扮演重要角色。你能告诉我们更多关于 M87星系的信息吗？比如它怎么会是银河之爱的源泉？有人居住吗？它是否有高度进化的文明，如果有，它们生活在哪个维度？
Cobra:I would say there is a huge galactic network of light and love in that galaxy, which is far more evolved than the galactic network in this galaxy. And the race inhabiting that galaxy is far more evolved than the galactic race in this galaxy; I would say they're super-evolved galactic cosmic beings. In Earth terminology, I would say 11th dimension and beyond. They are super-evolved cosmic beings of light and love.
柯博拉：我想说，在那个星系中有一个巨大的光与爱的星系网络，它比这个星系中的星系网络进化得多。居住在那个星系的种族比这个星系的种族进化得更多; 我会说他们是超级进化的星系宇宙生物。用地球的术语来说，我会说第11维度和更高的维度。他们是拥有光和爱的超级进化的宇宙生物。
Debra: Wow. Well, we are very blessed, grateful, and honored that they are connecting with us. So you said in your recent interview that the main energy blueprint of Pluto and Aquarius is expansion beyond the limits of the quarantine Earth. That there is a vast storage of spiritual knowledge and also physical abundance, which is connected to areas beyond the surface of the planet, and that Pluto and Aquarius will reconnect the surface of the planet with reservoirs of wisdom and abundance and spiritual inspiration. And we've seen this manifest in past history when Pluto was in Aquarius. So will the reconnection with wisdom, abundance, and spiritual inspiration start with this activation and then be ongoing? Or will we have to wait until 2024 when Pluto has almost fully moved into its 20-year position in Aquarius?
黛布拉:哇。我们很幸运，很感激，也很荣幸他们和我们联系在一起。所以你在最近的采访中说，冥王星和水瓶座的主要能量蓝图是超越隔离地球的极限的扩张。存在着大量的精神知识和物质丰富性，它们与地球表面以外的区域相连，冥王星和水瓶座将用智慧、丰富性和精神灵感的水库重新连接地球表面。我们在过去的历史中看到过这个清单，当冥王星在水瓶座的时候。那么，与智慧、富足和灵性灵感的重新连接是否会从这种开启开始，然后持续下去呢？或者我们必须等到2024年，当冥王星几乎完全进入它在水瓶座20年的位置？
Cobra:As I said, this is a demarcation point. So the trigger will be released, the process will start and will be ongoing. It'll have its setbacks later, but there will be also a huge amount of forward movement. And the 20-year period is the period when all the changes we have been waiting for have to manifest. I would say in the very early part of the 20-year period in Aquarius is when we are expecting, in our understanding, we are expecting those big changes to happen.
柯博拉：正如我所说，这是一个分界点。因此，触发器将被释放，过程将开始，并将继续。以后会有挫折，但也会有大量的前进。而20年是所有我们一直在等待的变化必须显现的时期。我想说的是，在宝瓶座20年期间的最初阶段，我们期待着，在我们的理解中，我们期待着那些巨大的变化发生。
Debra: Okay. Now the energy of Pluto is more focused and much more direct than other planets with qualities like "destroyer" and "revealer", bringing everything that was suppressed to the surface. And as we are aware, disclosure and planetary liberation are taking much longer than expected. Do we need this more direct energy of Pluto to move the planetary situation out of the stuck place that we are in? And how might that show up?
黛布拉:好的。现在冥王星的能量比其他具有"毁灭者"和"揭示者"等特性的行星更集中、更直接，把所有被压制的东西都带到了表面。正如我们所意识到的，揭露和行星解放所花的时间比预期的要长得多。我们是否需要冥王星的这种更直接的能量来将行星状况从我们所处的困境中解脱出来？那会怎么样呢？
Cobra:This is exactly what is happening. Energy of Pluto is very laser-like, very direct, uncompromising. And this is exactly what will break this stalemate position on the planet. It'll break this holding pattern. And when Pluto energy comes, it is very sudden, very unexpected, and very direct.
柯博拉：这就是正在发生的事情。冥王星的能量非常像激光，非常直接，不妥协。这正是打破地球僵局的关键。它会打破这种等待模式。当冥王星的能量来的时候，非常突然，非常出乎意料，非常直接。
Debra: Stalemate is the perfect word to describe the situation we're in now. So we welcome Pluto, the energy of Pluto, to make this movement that we're waiting for. Now it seems like each planet has unique qualities, even like a personality. Are planets living beings because an entity of light has embodied them? Are these beings highly evolved since they chose to incarnate in the physical as a planet?
黛布拉: "僵局"这个词用来形容我们现在的处境再合适不过了。所以我们欢迎冥王星，冥王星的能量，来做我们期待的运动。现在看来，每个行星都有其独特的品质，甚至是个性。行星之所以有生命，是因为有光的存在体现了它们吗？这些存有是否因为他们选择在物质世界作为一个行星投生而高度进化？
Cobra:Actually every planet is, I would say, the physical planet is a physical body of a very highly evolved entity, which is ensouling that particular planet, and those are very evolved beings.
柯博拉：事实上，每个星球都是，我想说，物质星球是一个高度进化的实体的物质身体，赋予那个特定星球灵魂，那些是非常进化的生物。
Debra: What about our beloved Earth, Goddess Gaia Sophia? Did she choose to embody planet Earth, knowing that it would be the last stronghold for evil in the universe? How is she able to withstand and transmute all the negative energy here and the abuse that has been done to her? What can you tell us about her?
黛布拉:那么我们亲爱的地球，盖娅 · 索菲亚女神呢？她明知地球将是宇宙中邪恶的最后据点，还选择代表地球吗？她怎么能承受并转化这里所有的负面能量以及对她的虐待呢？关于她你知道些什么？
Cobra:It was not known that it will be the last stronghold for evil in the universe. And, it takes an enormous amount of patience for her to maintain the planetary surface without any cataclysms. She is withholding the cataclysms for the right moment, for everything to be cleared out completely. Otherwise, we would have drastic cataclysms decades ago.
柯博拉：没有人知道它会成为宇宙中邪恶的最后堡垒。而且，她需要极大的耐心来维持行星表面没有任何灾难。她是在适当的时候扣留灾难，为了一切都被完全清除。否则，我们几十年前就会发生大灾难了。
Debra: Wow. Well, I hope we take time daily to honor her and thank her for everything she's doing for us. So you've indicated that this activation is occurring because time is running out. Would you elaborate what you mean by time running out? Does it have to do with the highly accelerated nefarious plans that the dark ones have for humanity? Does it have to do with being close to the boiling point in the nucleation phase of the Compression Breakthrough? Or, with the polar shift that is in our future?
黛布拉:哇。我希望我们每天都花时间纪念她感谢她为我们所做的一切。所以你已经指出了这种开启的发生是因为时间不多了。你能解释一下时间不多是什么意思吗？这和黑暗势力对人类的高速邪恶计划有关吗？是否与压缩突破的成核阶段接近沸点有关？或者，随着我们未来的极移？
Cobra:I would say this time is running out because certain cosmic cycles are converging and everything needs to be resolved until a certain point of time. That certain point of time, of course, is classified. It's not known to the surface population, but there is a certain point until which this has to be resolved one way or the other, and it will be resolved one way or the other. So things are accelerating because they are converging into that particular time point.
柯博拉：我想说，这个时间正在流逝，因为某些宇宙周期正在汇聚，所有问题都需要解决，直到某个特定的时间点。那个特定的时间点，当然，是机密。地表居民并不知道，但是有一个特定的点，在那之前，这个问题必须以某种方式解决，这个问题必须以某种方式解决。所以物体在加速，因为它们正在收敛到那个特定的时间点。
Debra: Can you tell us which position we are in, like how close are we to this boiling point in the nucleation phase?
黛布拉:你能告诉我们我们在哪个位置吗? 比如我们离成核阶段的沸点有多近？
Cobra:In this diagram, which was shown on my website, we are in the last phase before the big thermal transition. So this, the thermal flux is increasing more and more and at the moment of maximum thermal flux, we will have the Event.
柯博拉：在我的网站上显示的这个图表中，我们处于大热转变之前的最后阶段。所以，热通量越来越大，在热通量达到最大的时候，我们就会发生事件。
Debra: So we are continuing to move closer to that point?
黛布拉:所以我们会继续向那个目标靠近吗？
Cobra:Yeah. Debra: Hopefully! Even though it's not pleasant to discuss the nefarious plans of the dark ones, I'd like to spend a few minutes doing so because this topic is on everyone's mind, especially with everything going on in the last few years and situations escalating.
柯博拉：是的。希望如此！尽管讨论黑暗势力的邪恶计划并不是一件令人愉快的事情，但我还是想花几分钟时间来讨论一下，因为这个话题是每个人都在关注的，尤其是在最近几年发生的事情和局势不断升级的情况下。
So the plans that the dark ones have for us is quite a long list, unfortunately, including things like global war, even more dangerous pandemics, poisoned food/water/air (including injecting mRNA into our food), food shortages, a hard financial crash, hyperinflation, digital currency surveillance that tracks our every move, "15-minute" cities, fake alien invasion, energy weapon attacks, cyberattacks, and more…to create hardships, strife and hopelessness. It is a very long list.
因此，黑暗势力为我们准备的计划有很多，不幸的是，其中包括全球战争、更加危险的流行病、有毒的食物/水/空气(包括向我们的食物中注入信使核糖核酸)、食物短缺、严重的金融危机、恶性通货膨胀、追踪我们一举一动的数字货币监控、"15分钟"城市、假外星人入侵、能源武器攻击、网络攻击等等... ... 以制造困难、冲突和绝望。名单很长。
Debra:So to emphasize the importance of reaching critical mass for this May 1st meditation, I would like to ask you what we might expect regarding these plans and which ones might manifest if we do not reach critical mass? And also how these plans could weaken or deter if we do reach critical mass. So, please elaborate.
黛布拉:因此，为了强调在5月1日的冥想中达到临界质量的重要性，我想问你们，对于这些计划，我们可能会期待什么，如果我们没有达到临界质量，哪些计划可能会显现？以及如果我们达到临界质量，这些计划将如何削弱或阻止。所以，请详细说明。
Cobra:Okay. It is expected that many of those plans, the possibility of many of those plans, will drop to zero as we reach the point of that portal. So, some of them are already quite improbable and their probability will drop to zero. If we reach the critical mass, we will reduce more and more of those plans to zero. If we don't reach the critical mass, some of those plans will still be probable to a certain degree, but I would say the progress we are making is good. So many of those plans are not realistic anymore. For example, the plan of a fake alien invasion, this is not going to happen. It's impossible, it's already impossible.
柯博拉：好的。预计当我们到达那个门户点时，许多这些计划，其中许多计划的可能性，将降至零。因此，其中一些已经是相当不可能的，他们的概率将下降到零。如果我们达到临界质量，我们将把越来越多的计划减少到零。如果我们没有达到临界质量，其中一些计划在一定程度上仍然有可能，但我要说，我们正在取得的进展是好的。那么多的计划都不再现实了。例如，假外星人入侵的计划，这是不会发生的。不可能，已经不可能了。
Debra: Okay, good. Well, again, more motivation to participate in the May 1st meditation! So, critical mass is essential, it sounds like. I understand that at your recent conference in Taiwan, you mentioned that the dark forces have pretty much exhausted all their resources to try to keep the pandemic and the covid quarantine in place for the last three years, and therefore they don't have a lot of resources left. You indicated that, at this point, one of the very few things that they have up their sleeves is to potentially crash the financial system, but there's not much else that they can do. Would you speak more about this? Could this crash happen even if critical mass is reached?
黛布拉:好的，很好。那么，再次，更多的动力参与五一冥想！所以临界质量是必不可少的。我知道你最近在台湾的会议上提到，黑暗势力为了维持疫情和冠状病毒疾病隔离已经耗尽了他们所有的资源，所以他们剩下的资源不多了。你指出，此时此刻，他们仅有的几件事情之一就是潜在地摧毁金融体系，但他们能做的也不多。你能再说说这个吗？即使达到临界质量，这种崩溃还会发生吗？
Cobra:This hard financial crash is still possible. Their plan is to introduce the central banking digital currencies [CBDCs] as a result of that crash, which they would engineer. But I would also say that the Light Forces have their own plans, and if they do something like this, the Light Forces could create a surprise. And if we reach the critical mass, that surprise is much more likely. So, I would say this is one of the more probable plans of the dark, which has not been cleared out yet completely. But the Light Forces are doing whatever possible to drop that possibility to zero.
柯博拉：这场严重的金融危机仍有可能发生。他们的计划是引入央行数字货币(CBDC) ，作为金融危机的结果。但是我也要说光明势力有他们自己的计划，如果他们这样做，光明势力会制造一个惊喜。如果我们达到临界质量，那么出其不意的可能性就更大。所以，我认为这是黑暗势力更有可能的计划之一，它还没有被完全清除。但是光明势力正在尽一切可能把这种可能性降到零。
Debra: Good. Well, we look forward to what that surprise might be! So, Lightworkers are needed to hold as much light as possible during these intense times, yet worry and fear of the unknown about our future can truly lower that vibration. And this worry especially applies to their finances, wondering if they will be able to keep a roof over their head or food on the table. Should this negative financial crash happen, could people lose money in their bank accounts? And what are the recommendations of the Light Forces regarding where to keep the money that we have? Is it in alternate options like precious metals or cryptocurrency? And what is your advice about Bitcoin and Ripple?
黛布拉:很好。我们很期待会有什么惊喜！因此，光之工作者需要在这些紧张的时刻尽可能多地持有光，然而对我们未来的未知的担忧和恐惧可以真正降低这种振动。这种担忧尤其适用于他们的财务状况，他们担心自己是否能够维持生计或者能够维持餐桌上的食物。如果这种负面的金融崩溃发生了，人们会在银行账户上损失钱吗？光之部队有什么建议关于把我们的钱放在哪里？它是否存在于贵金属或加密货币之类的替代选择中？你对比特币和Ripple有什么建议？
Cobra:If the dark forces engineer a hard financial crash, the banks would be closed. And then when the digital currencies would be introduced, you could probably keep most or even all of the money that you previously had in your bank account, but it would be digital and it would be surveilled by the dark. So it would be advisable to at least convert some of that money into silver or gold, precious metals. Cryptocurrency? Use your own inner guidance. I cannot say anything more about that.
柯博拉：如果黑暗势力策划了一场严重的金融危机，银行就会关门。然后当数字货币出现的时候，你可以保留大部分甚至是所有你之前存在银行账户里的钱，但是它是数字的，并且会被黑暗监视。因此，最好至少将其中一部分货币兑换成白银或黄金等贵金属。加密货币？用你内心的指引。我不能再多说什么了。
Debra: Okay, thank you for sharing that with us. Can you tell us how likely it is that a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency] system will be put in place and how soon that could happen? Things we would like to know, like how long would we have to deal with the tyranny of the CBDC system before a positive financial system kicks in? Could the positive quantum financial system kick in prior to the Event if the May 1st meditation is successful? And, could the meditation prevent the CBDC from being implemented? We appreciate any insight you can offer on this topic.
黛布拉:好的，谢谢你和我们分享这些。你能告诉我们央行数字货币系统建立起来的可能性有多大，多快能够实现吗？我们想知道的是，在一个积极的金融体系发挥作用之前，我们还需要多长时间来应对 CBDC 体系的暴政？如果5月1日的冥想成功了，正面量子金融系统会在事件发生之前启动吗？那么，冥想能否阻止 CBDC 的实施呢？我们感谢您对这个话题的任何见解。
Cobra:There will definitely be attempts for this system to be introduced, but this meditation will decrease that possibility, and the portal itself will also decrease that possibility. And as I said, there are many positive surprises possible at each stage of the process. So the situation is not so one-sided that many people would like to portray. And in the long run, this CBDC system will not be successful. It will not succeed.
柯博拉：肯定会有人尝试引入这个系统，但是这个冥想会减少这种可能性，而门户本身也会减少这种可能性。正如我所说，在这个过程的每个阶段都有许多可能的积极的惊喜。因此，情况并不是很多人愿意描述的那样一面倒。从长远来看，这个 CBDC 系统不会成功。它不会成功的。
Debra: Okay, good to hear. Being able to prepare for what is ahead can help people reduce worry, fear, and anxiety. So, what can you suggest to us on how to prepare both physically and energetically to withstand whatever nefarious plans or chaos does manifest?
黛布拉:好的，很高兴听你这么说。能够为将要发生的事情做好准备可以帮助人们减少担心、恐惧和焦虑。那么，对于如何在身体上和能量上做好准备，以抵御任何邪恶的计划或混乱的显现，你能给我们什么建议呢？
Cobra:Very simply, connect with your higher self, with your I AM presence, with your soul.
柯博拉：非常简单，连接你的高我，连接你的"我是存在"，连接你的灵魂。
Debra: So stay in that place of connection, thank you. This question concerns specifically the financial struggles that many Lightworkers face. You've taught us in the past the techniques of manifestation: intention, invocation, and action. However, it seems like many Lightworkers, especially those battling on the front lines, experience an unnatural amount of interference from the dark when attempting to manifest better lives for themselves. Many of these Lightworkers have selflessly worked for years in service of the Light without receiving any awards or compensation for their efforts, and instead of their lives getting better, it seems the more they give and the more they work for the light, the worse their lives get in all aspects such as finances and health, etc. Some Lightworkers find themselves currently in financial dire straits and are even struggling to find a decent place to live. Under such conditions many Lightworkers find it increasingly difficult to stay motivated and continue with their work. So besides the manifestation technique of intention, invocation, and action, are there any other concrete measures that Lightworkers can take to reduce dark interference in their manifesting process?
黛布拉:所以留在那个连接的地方，谢谢。这个问题特别关注许多光之工作者所面临的财务斗争。你们在过去已经教会我们显现的技巧: 意图、祈求和行动。然而，似乎许多光之工作者，特别是那些在前线战斗的人，在试图为自己显化更好的生活时，经历了来自黑暗的非自然的干扰。这些光之工作者中的许多人已经无私地为光服务多年，并没有因为他们的努力而获得任何奖励或补偿，而且他们的生活并没有变得更好，似乎他们付出的越多，为光工作的越多，他们的生活在诸如财务和健康等方面就变得越糟糕。一些光之工作者发现他们自己目前处于财政困境，甚至正在努力寻找一个体面的地方生活。在这样的条件下，许多光之工作者发现越来越难以保持动力并继续他们的工作。因此，除了意愿、祈求和行动的显化技术，还有其他任何具体的措施，光之工作者可以采取来减少他们显化过程中的黑暗干扰吗？
Cobra:The key here would be to have balance between the work for the light and work for your own well-being. So if this is kept in balance, and if you continue doing the manifestation process, there should be results. Also, unfortunately, we are in the last phase of this galactic war, and it is really fierce. It is brutal. It is quite drastic and many people have experienced quite drastic attacks and quite serious setbacks in their life situations in the last few years as a result of all the dark attacks. It is expected that those situations can begin slowly to resolve, after we open the portal.
柯博拉：这里的关键是要在为光而工作和为你自己的幸福而工作之间保持平衡。因此，如果这是保持平衡的，如果你继续做显化过程，应该会有结果。而且，不幸的是，我们正处于这场银河系战争的最后阶段，这场战争非常激烈。太残忍了。这是相当激烈的，许多人经历了相当激烈的攻击和相当严重的挫折，他们的生活状况在过去几年中，由于所有的黑暗的攻击。预计在我们门户开启之后，这些情况可以开始缓慢地解决。
Debra: Okay, good. After this portal opening on May 1st, what concrete steps are the Light Forces planning to take to significantly enhance the quality of life for Lightworkers? What are some specific improvements that Lightworkers might expect to see in their day-to-day lives?
黛布拉:好的，很好。在5月1日这个门户开启之后，光明势力计划采取什么具体步骤来显著提高光之工作者的生活质量？光之工作者可能期望在他们的日常生活中看到哪些具体的改进？
Cobra:There is a certain specific protocol which is being beta tested now and is expected to become quite effective after May 1st. And when I have some concrete information about this that I can release, I will release it.
柯博拉：目前有一个特定的协议正在进行测试，预计在5月1日之后会非常有效。当我有一些具体的信息，我可以发布，我会发布它。
Debra: We very much look forward to hearing that! What are the implications for Lightworkers when Dreamland reaches 1.0 and how can they participate already? Is it in operation in any capacity yet?
黛布拉:
我们非常期待听到这个消息! 当 "梦境 "达到1.0时，对光合作用者有什么影响，他们如何已经参与其中？它是否已经以任何形式在运作了？
Cobra:All that is classified information at this point.
柯博拉：目前所有这些都是机密信息。
Debra: Okay, thank you. Now, you haven't yet disclosed anything about Dreamspace. Can you share anything about that? And is it related to Dreamland?
黛布拉:好的，谢谢。你还没有透露梦境的任何信息。你能透露点什么吗？和梦境有关吗？
Cobra:This is also classified information.
柯博拉：这也是机密信息。
Debra: Okay, thank you. So as we just talked about, these attacks in the past couple of years, some of these attacks have been drastically ramping up against Lightworkers, especially targeting their physical health. Some Lightworkers who've been following your intel for many years and who've been diligently going about their missions, have fallen severely ill or suffered from injuries that have left them incapacitated and physically unable to continue with their missions. These are Lightworkers who regularly shield and protect, they invoke Command 1221 multiple times a day, and lead otherwise healthy lives. So besides using the Violet Flame and invoking the Pleidian command protocols, what other concrete measures can Lightworkers take to protect their health? Also, for those whose health has been severely compromised through dark attacks, what is the best way for these Lightworkers to recover and get back on their feet?
黛布拉:好的，谢谢。因此，正如我们刚刚谈到的，在过去的几年里，这些攻击中的一些已经对光之工作者大幅增加，特别是针对他们的身体健康。一些光之工作者已经跟随你们的情报很多年了，他们一直在努力完成他们的任务，他们已经严重生病或者遭受伤害，这些伤害使得他们丧失了能力并且身体上无法继续他们的任务。这些是经常保护和保护的光之工作者，他们每天多次调用命令1221，并且过着健康的生活。那么除了使用紫罗兰火焰和调用昴宿星命令协议，光之工作者还能采取什么其他具体措施来保护他们的健康呢？还有，对于那些因为黑暗袭击而严重损害健康的人来说，什么是这些光之工作者恢复和重新站起来的最好方法？
Cobra:Again, as I have said before, the key here is balance between work for the mission and work towards healing yourself and making your life better. And one of the other situations that need to be resolved is those attacks need to get less and less. And when the darkness really begins to lose power on the surface of the planet, those situations will begin to resolve, they will begin to heal.
柯博拉：正如我以前说过的，这里的关键是在为使命而工作和为治愈自己而工作之间取得平衡，让你的生活变得更好。另一个需要解决的问题是这些攻击需要越来越少。当黑暗真的开始失去行星表面的力量，这些情况将开始解决，他们将开始愈合。
Debra: Okay. So there's a balance between giving to the light and also giving to yourself, self-care.
黛布拉:好的。所以在给予光明和给予自己、照顾自己之间是有平衡的。
Cobra:Yes.
柯博拉：是的。
Debra: What about the more frequent occurrences of depression, anxiety, sleep disturbances, insomnia, and even nightmares people are experiencing? Are these energetic attacks a result of the current cleansing by the Light Forces of the black holes and anomalies, or what is causing this? And is there anything more you can tell us to do to lessen these conditions?
黛布拉:抑郁、焦虑、睡眠障碍、失眠，甚至是人们正在经历的噩梦这些更频繁发生的事情又是怎么回事呢？这些能量攻击是光之力清理黑洞和异常现象的结果，还是什么导致了这一切？你还能告诉我们做些什么来减轻这些状况吗？
Cobra:This is a direct result of the purification of the darkness, especially on the etheric plane right now. All those entities, dark technologies, all that is being cleared, and this is quite intense. And of course, do your own protection techniques and focus upon the light. And it is expected that those things will get better at some point where we will be able to protect ourselves more and when light can begin to fully enter on the etheric plane.
柯博拉：这是黑暗净化的直接结果，特别是现在在以太层面上。所有这些实体，黑暗科技，所有这些正在被清除，这是相当激烈的。当然，做你自己的保护技巧，专注于光。预计这些事情会在某个时候变得更好，在那个时候我们将能够更好地保护我们自己，在那个时候光能够开始完全进入以太层面。
Debra: Right. And I know it's probably something obvious, but I just would like to point out the importance of doing DAILY protection protocols, especially if you are an active Lightworker. So Cobra, if the May 1st meditation is successful, will it be easier for the Light Forces to remove our implants and will it be easier for us to help remove them also? You know, we do exercises that help people to dissolve the implants. Will this be easier after the May 1st meditation?
黛布拉:对。我知道这可能是显而易见的，但我只是想指出做每日保护协议的重要性，特别是如果你是一个正面的光工作者。那么，柯博拉，如果5月1日的冥想成功了，光明势力会更容易移除我们的植入物吗? 我们也会更容易帮助移除它们吗？你知道，我们做运动，帮助人们溶解植入物。在五一之后，这会变得容易些吗？
Cobra:Yes, that is expected.
柯博拉：是的，这是意料之中的。
Debra: Good. And at the Paris Conference, you stated at the time that the Goddess energy on the planet was very, very low, like zero. Has this improved since that conference, and especially now after the recent Taiwan conference?
黛布拉:很好。在巴黎会议上，你说当时地球上的女神能量非常非常低，几乎为零。自从那次会议以来，特别是最近的台湾会议以后，这种情况有没有改善？
Cobra:It has improved since the last Taiwan conference to a degree, but much, much more improvement is necessary.
柯博拉：自从上次台湾会议以来，它已经有了一定程度的改进，但是还需要更多的改进。
Debra: Yes, agreed. Is there a threshold amount of divine feminine energy needed that will finally turn the tide to potentially trigger the Event?
黛布拉:是的，同意。是否有一个阈值量的神圣女性能量需要，最终将扭转潮流，潜在地触发事件？
Cobra:There is no specific threshold amount of divine feminine energy required for the Event, it just determines how harmonious or how hard the transition will be. Of course, with more divine feminine energy present, the transition will be more harmonious. But with the amount we have now, the Event itself will be quite a shocking and drastic experience for most people on the surface of this planet.
柯博拉：事件并不需要特定的女性能量阈值，它只是决定转变的和谐程度或困难程度。当然，随着更多神圣的女性能量的出现，转变将会更加和谐。但是以我们现在所拥有的数量，这次事件本身对于地球表面的大多数人来说将是一次相当震惊和极端的经历。
Debra: Okay, more motivation to get involved with Sisterhood of the Rose and also doing your own inner work to call in more and anchor more divine feminine Goddess energy. So, absolutely. You indicated that if the Lightworker energy grid will be reactivated, that there will be a rebirth of Goddess energy and the feminine principle will begin to flow more freely, and all that can happen if critical mass is reached. How will this visibly show up on the planet and with humanity?
黛布拉:好的，加入玫瑰姐妹会的更多动力，同时也做你自己的内在工作，呼唤更多，锚定更多神圣的女性女神能量。所以，当然。你指出，如果光之工作者能量网格将被重新开启，那么将会有一个女神能量的再生，女性原则将开始更自由地流动，如果达到临界质量，所有这一切都将发生。这将如何在地球和人类身上明显地表现出来？
Cobra:This can show up as more hope, more inspiration, more peace, more balance, less madness, and less violence on the planet.
柯博拉：这可以表现为地球上更多的希望、更多的灵感、更多的和平、更多的平衡、更少的疯狂和更少的暴力。
Debra: Very good. In other words, making the transition much easier. So in the meantime, what can Sisterhood of the Rose and others who are dedicated to anchoring more energy do to assist this?
黛布拉:很好。换句话说，让转变变得更容易。那么与此同时，玫瑰姐妹会和其他致力于锚定更多能量的人们能做些什么来帮助这一切呢？
Cobra:Okay, at this point, the most important thing is to assist in spreading the word about the Portal of Light [activation] and participate fully. This is just a 20-minute meditation, and I would believe that this is not something overly difficult to do, to take 20 minutes of your time and dedicate it to this. And this can potentially change a lot on this planet. So I would encourage everybody to spread the word and to dedicate some time to meditate on that day.
柯博拉：好的，在这一点上，最重要的事情是帮助传播关于光之门户的话[开启]和充分参与。这只是一个20分钟的冥想，我相信这并不是一件很难做到的事情，花20分钟的时间专注于此。这可能会给这个星球带来很大的改变。因此，我鼓励大家在那一天传播这个信息，并且花一些时间来冥想。
Debra: Absolutely. And again, this Portal of Light activation meditation takes place on May 1st at 5:06 PM UTC. And you can find more information about this meditation on Cobra's blog at 2012portal.blogspot.com, as well as on the WeLoveMassMeditation.com website.
黛布拉:当然。同样，这个光之门户开启冥想发生在世界协调时5月1日下午5:06。你可以在 Cobra 的博客2012portal.blogspot.com 和 welovemassmeditation.com 网站上找到更多关于这种冥想的信息。
Awesome, Cobra, thank you for sharing that. In our Part Two of the interview next month, we are going to be speaking about the results of this activation. Hopefully there's some very good news around this. We'll also be speaking a lot more about Goddess energy, twin souls, Ascension, the Event, and much more. So we look forward to connecting with you again for that.
太棒了，柯博拉，谢谢你的分享。在下个月的采访的第二部分，我们将会谈到这种开启的结果。希望能有好消息。我们也将谈论更多关于女神能量、双生灵魂、扬升、事件等等。因此，我们期待着再次与您联系。
So Cobra, as we end Part One of this interview, would you please share some words of inspiration and encouragement, and if there's anything else you'd like to say about the upcoming activation?
因此，柯博拉，当我们结束这次采访的第一部分，你可以分享一些鼓舞和鼓励的话，如果还有什么你想说的关于即将到来的开启？
Cobra:Okay. I would say that the last few years were quite boring. There was not much going on. It was just a lot of same old, same old. But now we are finally getting to a more interesting part of our evolutionary process. So I would say hold the light, dedicate some time to spread word about this activation – and Victory of the Light.
柯博拉：好的。我得说过去几年很无聊。没发生什么事。只是老样子，老样子。但是现在我们终于进入了进化过程中更有趣的部分。所以我会说，持有光，奉献一些时间来传播关于这种开启-和光的胜利的话。
Debra: Yes, Victory of the Light! Cobra, thank you so much for doing this interview, for guiding us and continuing to hold the light for humanity. We appreciate you very much and look forward to talking to you again in Part Two. So thank you so much. I'd also like to thank the Sisterhood of the Rose and Victory of Light teams who contributed questions and helped with support of this interview. I thank you all so much. Thank you again, Cobra, Victory of the Light.
黛布拉:是的，光的胜利！柯博拉，非常感谢你接受我们的采访，感谢你指引我们，感谢你继续为人类指明方向。我们非常感谢您，并期待在第二部分再次与您交谈。非常感谢。我还要感谢玫瑰姐妹会和光之胜利团队，他们提出了问题并帮助支持了这次采访。非常感谢大家。再次感谢你，柯博拉，光的胜利。
Cobra:Thank you, Victory of the Light.
柯博拉：谢谢你，光的胜利。
来源：https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2023/04/sisterhood-of-rose-interview-with-cobra-portal-of-light-activation.html
