尼尔·布什 美国政治精神病 中国发展道路好

尼尔·布什 美国政治精神病 中国发展道路好

尼尔·布什:中国的发展道路非常适合中国

中国日报网 2024-10-09

中国日报网10月9日电 近日,乔治·布什美中关系基金会创始人及主席尼尔·布什在接受CGTN采访时表示,通过自己在过去几十年间的访华经历,他得出了让一些美国人无法忍受的结论:中国的发展道路非常适合中国。



尼尔·布什是美国前总统老布什的第三个儿子。过去 50 年,尼尔曾经150次来到中国,他总结说:“中国的体制对中国来说是行之有效的,大多数美国人可能甚至无法容忍我这么说,中国的体制让数亿人受益。”

尼尔表示,近期中美关系之所以处于低点,原因很简单,中国正在崛起,而美国政客编造了偏执的“虚假叙事” 。

哈佛大学某位教授在其《注定一战》书中研究了 16 个历史案例,认为崛起大国与老牌强国之所以会爆发战争,是因为老牌强国感到了崛起大国带来的威胁,在过去 600 年中,这 16 个案例中有 12 个以战争告终。

美国一些政客随之编造了谎言,说崛起大国想要接管世界,成为地球上最强大的力量,或者崛起大国将接管美国经济……诸如此类的虚假言论。

尼尔表示,类似的虚假言论被广泛散布,他并不相信中国的崛起会对美国构成威胁,如果更多的美国人可以来到中国看看,就会自己做出判断,而不必听信美国政治精英的宣传和煽动,把中国描绘成某种魔鬼。

尼尔认为,中国对美国没有敌意,而是美国自己把中国变成了敌人。

世界各国都会加强国防。随着中国的不断发展,其军事实力显然也会随之增强。因而有人担忧中国“是否有可能以某种敌对方式针对美国”,尼尔认为这根本不是中国的意图。

尼尔强调,他的父亲从不认为中国是美国的敌人,“如果你这样对待朋友,最终可能会把朋友变成敌人,但如果我们最终卷入某种冲突,这对两国和世界来说都是毁灭性的。”

最后,尼尔表示,加强与中国的贸易实际上非常健康,对美国消费者有利,对美国有利,中美将实现双赢。美国人民最终会认识到中国不是所谓的“坏人”。 

尼尔·布什:美国正处于一个疯狂的时代,他对中国的看法令人震惊 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KsVuYnbf_Y&t=103s 2024年10月25日 乔治·布什美中关系基金会创始人及主席。美国前总统老布什第3子,小布什弟弟,从事银行、石油、贸易等行业。在接受中国记者采访时,他对美国大选、中美关系和美国对中国的认知发表了自己的观点是的,不幸的是,美国的政治已经变得非常黑白分明,分裂,他赢了,我们输了,所以有人担心,因为中国的崛起,我们会以某种方式改变,或者以某种方式改变,无论如何我们生活在其中在美国的疯狂时光,我只是与你分享一件事,就像我们几天前刚刚去过我们,你做到了是的,我在纽约,我环顾四周是否有一辆中国汽车,但不幸的是我没有看到任何中国电动车都会很难中国汽车公司在美国站稳脚跟,特别是如果唐纳德·特朗普当选总统,他坚持对中国汽车征收关税,即使是在墨西哥生产的汽车,不是中国制造的,而是在墨西哥生产的,关税也将达到 100%所以他害怕中国人与中国人的竞争,所以很难想象中国汽车会进入美国市场,顺便说一句,我的看法是关税

伤害了美国消费者,我 100% 有信心中国人制造的新能源汽车是最好的,我参观过 Cherry 的生产工厂,对那里的团队非常了解,我也读了很多关于比亚迪和其他公司的文章,所以对于美国人而言没有意识到高质量、合理价格的好处,你知道续航里程更长的电动汽车或混合动力汽车,这太糟糕了,我,这是不幸的,因为你知道我们共和党人曾经相信开放获取,免费你知道开放贸易,只要是公平贸易,现在我们的共和党已经被一个关税官员接管了,是的,特朗普说,如果他赢了,他不仅会对电动汽车征收更多的税,还会对其他所有好的东西征收更多的税你认为这会引发与中国的第二次贸易战吗?当然,这损害了美国,也损害了中国,所以我对贸易战不太了解,我不是经济学家,所以我不确定我会使用贸易战这个词,但它会使贸易变得非常困难,嗯,会惩罚这里的消费者和美国的制造商消费者以及中国的制造商,你知道我发现了什么,这是选举中唯一的好消息到目前为止,终于有经济学家在《纽约时报》和其他出版物上发表关于关税的专栏文章,他们正确地指出,关税不是由中国支付的,而是美国消费者认为,随着价格上涨,他们指出,关税根本不是特朗普声称对美国有利,所以现在他的关税被揭穿的消息越来越公开,这是令人鼓舞的,所以我们会看看它是否会产生影响,你知道我我绝对不是特朗普的粉丝,因为我认为他的经济政策对美国非常有害,比哈里斯更有害,哈里斯是民主党人,我在一个共和党家庭长大,但你知道我支持特朗普我认为这对经济的影响比哈里斯更糟,希望哈里斯能获胜,就像中美之间的经济关系是中美关系的压舱石,现在这种关系似乎受到了伤害,这会如何影响中美关系,我的意思是两国关系将继续呈螺旋式上升趋势,我父亲经常说,中美关系是世界上最重要的双边关系,他是对的,我父亲认识到中国已经成为世界第二大经济体世界上数亿人摆脱贫困,很大程度上得益于我们的双边贸易关系,作为一个热爱自由的美国人,这是值得骄傲的一件大事,因为中国有更多人享受自由。1975 年,我来到这里,当时正值文化大革命。想象一下,49 年前我第一次来到这里,今天人们享受着经济自由,这和现在有什么不同。当他们达到一定的财富水平时,他们就有自由送孩子上学、旅行和选择自己想从事的行业,找到令人满意的工作,因此出现了大规模的自由运动。在共产主义中国,这个词可能比较敏感,但对我来说,这是一项了不起的成就,我们应该为此感到自豪。另一方面,美国已经成为世界上最大的经济体,国内生产总值最高,人均国内生产总值最高。按人均计算,我们的经济规模远高于中国,这在很大程度上是因为全球化,而我们在全球化中的主要合作伙伴一直是中国,所以我们有一个双赢n 环境直到最近,中国的崛起才在美国引发了对我们的国家安全和生活方式的真正恐惧,你知道,如果你听到政客们谈论,你知道,就像共产党人将要出现并接管美国,共产主义这个词曾经意味着你知道你为冷战创造了共产主义,共产主义曾经是一种当你想到马列主义的共产主义时会想到的东西,当今存在的共产主义是一种非常不同的共产主义,它具有市场导向,具有资本主义元素,具有社会主义元素,你知道,在这种共产主义形式下,人民的福祉确实得到了显着改善,但美国政客们以非常贬义的方式使用这个词,人们担心由于中国的崛起,我们会以某种方式改变或改变,你知道这是一种零和游戏,如果你赢了我们就会输,好吧,这不是真的,如果你赢了我们赢

如果我们赢了,你也赢了,你知道每个人都赢了,有一种情况是,我们都可以赢,嗯,你像个学者一样,Thon 刚刚在另一次采访中告诉我,他说大多数美国人不相信自己会赢,因为在体育运动中,没有人只有一个赢家,一个赢家,你怎么看待这种修辞,我担心,这种分析在今天是正确的,人们很好地理解了特朗普说,他说你知道他们在赢,我们在输,谈论中国是的,我希望美国有领导人,我的父亲是一位领导人,他会向人们解释关于关系的真相,你可以让一家公司一个国家发展并实现繁荣,而另一个国家也可以发展并实现繁荣,你也可以拥有双赢的局面,是的,不幸的是,美国的政治已经变得非常黑白分明,分裂,你知道他赢了我们输了,你知道有很多威胁性对话共和党人说卡玛拉哈里斯是共产主义同志,她会让我们的经济陷入深渊,你知道,民主党或共和党人说特朗普是一个想要成为独裁者的人,你知道,他除了自己的自我和自己之外,对其他任何事情都没有看法,无论如何,我们生活在美国的疯狂时代,是的,你谈论自由和全球化,现在中国很多人认为我们是全球化的领导者,这个想法得到了西方的集体认同,但现在中国是全球化的大力支持者,而美国支持保护主义,你怎么看这个陈德我最近听了一个经济学家的播客,他解释说,由于美国人口被剥夺了权利,你知道唐纳德特朗普正在利用美国许多人被抛在后面的感觉他们是黑尔家族和富人,富人被误导,认为因为中国因为全球化抢走了我们的工作,他们的生活被削弱了,他们得不到同样的待遇,所以整个全球化的概念已经变成了意味着某些东西被从你身上夺走了,有很多美国人过得并不好,因此很容易受到这样的信息的影响,那就是这是他们的错,我们要阻止它,我们不会和他们做贸易,或者我们要提高关税,从他们那里得到钱,你知道他们的言论试图利用美国人现在心理上的弱点,那就是很多人受苦,我确实认为收入差距是一个问题,有些人非常贫穷,有些人过得更好,显然,这在中国可能也是如此,但中国解决这个问题的另一种方式是美国,你知道,你是否认为这是一个国内问题,或者与其指责中国,不如说,这肯定有国内问题的根源,但中国是一个容易的目标,它是一个容易的替罪羊,你知道吗?我的意思是,两党都在对中国进行攻击和打击,你看到了疯狂的中国周,第 25 项法案通过了,是的,我确实认为这很疯狂,我认为有很多 F,我知道很多研究中国发展和美中关系的学者,他们认为关于中国崛起意图的错误说法,人们担心中国会取代美国成为全球维和部队,或具有全球影响力,或者中国会改变我们的生活方式,或者共产主义会渗透到美国政治体系中不管怎样,从文化角度来说,我们都会改变,你知道,因为虚假的叙述,人们会感到恐惧,不幸的是,你知道,在社交媒体和通信领域,我们拥有自由,我无法想象我们如何才能从真实的新闻中剔除虚假新闻,我不确定美国是否已经接近解决这个问题,是的,但正如你所说,美国是一个自由的国家,为什么收集这些信息如此困难在一个信息自由流通的国家,关于中国的问题,这就是我要问你的问题,你为什么认为我不知道,我认为因为我们的自由,人们可以说任何他们想说的话,不管它是真是假,如果你说得足够多,它就会变成真理,唐纳德·特朗普一遍又一遍地说,中国人在为关税买单,中国人在为关税买单,我们知道经济学家都知道,所有有思想的人都知道,美国消费者在为关税买单,而不是中国,中国正因关税而受到惩罚,制造业因关税而受到打击,这肯定会对中国产生负面影响,但这些关税的支付来自美国,但如果你一遍又一遍地说某件事,它就会变成真理,至少没有办法纠正这个真理不,你不能挥动魔杖,你不能制定法律或立法,你知道这迫使人们相信那是假的,这是真的,你知道我的意思,是的,人们相信,在美国,许多人相信选举是一个骗局,是一个欺诈,而且特朗普大获全胜,他并没有大获全胜,这已经明确确立,所有这些州的选举结果都得到了一个又一个的法庭案件的确认,但特朗普一遍又一遍地说,他的人民相信它,我不,我不明白,在这样一个时代,我们拥有如此惊人的沟通和透明度,任何人都可以轻松获得信息,嗯,这些虚假的叙述仍然在继续传播,而且你无法清理它,我希望有一种方法可以挥动魔杖,中国人民非常好奇,说我们这里的公平竞争是什么人们总是在谈论公平竞争,我的最后一个问题是,公平竞争是一个有趣的问题,因为我在中国工作了很多年,最近我也在沙特阿拉伯呆了很多时间,我注意到在发展新经济部门的国家,政府在提供早期资金方面发挥着重要作用,所以在沙特阿拉伯,他们有一个主权基金,叫做 piff PF,私人投资基金,例如,他们启动了一个新的汽车制造部门,而 piff 投入了所有的钱来创办一家名为 sear 的公司,他们投入了最大的一笔资金,也许是所有的钱,用于另一家电动汽车公司,这家公司在美国有制造基地,但正在建设制造业,所以他们正在建立一个完整的行业,引入供应链等,把所有这些钱都投入进去,这样的想法是,在某个时候,汽车业务,汽车制造生态系统将会变得如此之大它将自然地有机增长,无需政府援助,所以政府我的观点是,主权基金,无论是来自安威省的省级基金,帮助启动汽车行业或某种高科技企业,或者无论是国家基金,这些投资的基金被美国人和其他人视为不公平贸易的范畴,因为这些汽车公司或其他公司获得了政府补贴或政府投资资本,以确保它们能够成功,所以我想问人们的问题是,这真的不公平吗,还是只是聪明的做法,我的意思是,我住在一个叫德克萨斯州的州,我们有一个非常美丽的州,非常自由的经济,我们拥有最大的石油和天然气资源,我们还有最大的风能和太阳能,我们像沙特阿拉伯一样拥有丰富的能源,我认为,如果我们是德克萨斯州州长,我会组建一个主权基金,德克萨斯州的一个基金,我会投资于电动汽车制造或混合动力汽车制造等。我并不是长期看好电动汽车,我认为尤其是在美国,我认为续航里程很长的混合动力汽车更有意义,但我会先播种,然后让它自己起飞,因为那应该是可以的,我不会认为那是不公平的贸易,我会认为那是明智的贸易,嗯,我确实相信,虽然你知道,直接补贴产品只是为了打败海外的价格,当然,在那种直接干预的情况下,你必须切断它,嗯,而不是认为那是不公平的,应该全面公平,所以是的,长期疯狂,回答是的


尼尔布什:美国正处于一个疯狂的时代 他对中国的看法让人震惊

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KsVuYnbf_Y&t=103s

2024年10月25日

乔治.布什美中关系基金会创始人及主席。美国前总统老布什第3子,小布什弟弟,从事银行、石油、贸易等行业。在接受中国记者采访时,他对美国大选、中美关系和美国对中国的认知发表了自己的看法


yeah unfortunately the politics in America have become very black and white and divisive and he wins we lose and so there's a fear uh because of China's rise that we're going to be changed

somehow or altered somehow anyway we we live in crazy times in America I just one thing sharing with you is like we we just been to us in a couple days ago and you did yeah I I was

in New York and I looking around whether there's a Chinese car over there but unfortunately I didn't saw any Chinese EV um it's

going to be very hard for Chinese car

companies to establish a strong foothold

in the United States and especially if

Donald Trump is elected president he

insists that the Chinese cars tariffs on

Chinese cars even cars made in Mexico

not made in China but made in Mexico the

tariffs going to be 100% so he's he's

afraid of Chinese of competition with

the Chinese so yeah it's going to be

hard to imagine getting Chinese cars

into the American Market yeah and my

opinion by the way is that the tariffs

hurt American consumers I'm I'm 100%

confident that the Chinese make make the

best new energy Vehicles I've been on a

tour of the Cherry manufacturing plant

in woohoo and know the the the team

there very well and I read a lot of

articles about byd and others um and so

for the Americans not to realize the

benefit of high quality reasonably

priced you know longer range electric

vehicles or hybrid vehicles it's too bad

I it's it's it's it's a you know it's

unfortunate cuz you know we used to

Republicans used to believe in having

you know Open Access having free you

know open trade and so long as it's fair

trade and right now our Republican party

has been taken over by a by a tariff man

yeah and the Trump said that if he wins

he will put much more tar not only on EVS but also other good

everything do you think this will

trigger a second trade war with China of

course it damages the United States and

it damages China so I I don't know about

a trade War I'm not I'm not an economist

so I'm not sure I would use that term

trade War but it would make trade very

difficult and um and would punish

consumers here and manufact consumers in

the United States and manufacturers in

China you know what I what I'm finding

and it's kind of the only good news from

the election so far is that is that

there there are economists finally

speaking out and writing oped pieces in

the New York Times and in other

Publications about the tariffs and the

they point out properly that the tariffs

um aren't paid for by China they're paid

for by the American Consumer that with

Rising prices and they point out that that the

tariffs um are are not at all what Trump

claims in terms of of um you know

benefit to to the United States so the

debunking of his tariffs is becoming

more public now which which is

encouraging so we'll see we'll see if it

has makes an impact you know I'm I'm

definitely not a trump fan because I

think his economic policies are would

would be very harmful to to theit be

more harmful to the United States than

than Harris and Harris is a Democrat and

I was raised in a republican family but

you know I Trump I think it be worse for

the economy than Harris and hopefully

Harris will win like the economy

relation between China and US was the B

ballast of the C us relations and now

this relations seems be hurting and how

will this affect the China us relations

I mean it will continue to to have the

relationship bil relationship spiral my

father often said that the US China

relationship is the most consequential

the most important bilateral

relationship in the world and he was

right U my father recognized that China

has become the second largest economy in

the world lifting hundreds of millions

of people out of poverty in large

measure because of our bilateral trade

ties which is something as a freedom

loving American is is is a great thing

to take great pride in because more

people in China enjoy freedoms I was

here in 1975 during the cultural

revolution imagine the differences from

49 years ago when I first came to today

today when people enjoy economic

Prosperity when they achieve a certain

level of of wealth their the freedoms to

send kids to schools and to travel and

to pick you know businesses you want to

engage in and find work that's

satisfactory goes up so there there's

been a massive movement Freedom Movement

you that may be a sensitive word to be

using in in communist China but to me

it's a remarkable accomplishment that we

should take pride in you know on the

other hand America has become the

largest economy in the world with the

largest GDP with the largest per capita

GDP much larger than China's economy on

a per capita basis and it in large part

was happened because of globalization

and our major partner in globalization

was has been China so we've had a

win-win environment up until recently

China's rise has created real fear in

America about our national security our

way of life you know you if you hear

politicians talk you know it's like the

Communists are going to come up and take

over America and the word communist used

to mean you know you created for the

Cold War you communism used to be kind

of the what you would think of when you

think of malist kind of Communism the

communism that exists today is a very

different it has Market orientation it

has capitalist elements it has socialist

elements has you know the well-being of

people has really improv significantly

under this form of Communism but the

American politicians use the word in a

very derogatory negative way there's a

fear uh because of China's rise that

we're going to be changed somehow or

altered somehow you know it's kind of a

zero sum game if you win we lose well

that's that's not true if you win we win

if if we win you win you know everybody

wins there's a scenario out there where

we both can winh mhm U like a scholar

Thon just told me in another interview

he said that most American people don't

believe wi win because in a sports like

no one only one winner One winner how do

you see this kind of retoric I'm afraid

that that analysis is true today that

people perceive well Trump says it he

says you know they're winning we're

losing in talking about China yeah I

wish there were leaders in America my

father was a leader where he would

explain to the the people the truth

about relationships that you that you could

have you know one company one country

grow and Achieve prosperity and the

other one can grow and Achieve

Prosperity also that you can have

winning scenarios yeah unfor fortunately

the politics in America have become very

you know black and white and divisive

and you know he wins we lose and you

know there's been a lot of threatening

conversation Republicans say that kamla

Harris is a is a communist comrade

Kamala and that she's going to make our

economy go into a deep hole you know and

the Democrat or Republicans say that

Trump is a you know wannabe dictator and

you know he has no no perspective on

anything but his own ego and his own

self anyway we we live in crazy times in

America yeah you talk about freedom and

the globalization for many people here

in China now think actually us was the

leader of globalization and the idea was

shared by the collective West but now

China is a big supporter of

globalization and the US is in favor of

protectionism how do you see this chend

I was recently listened to a podcast

from an economist that explained that

because of the disenfranchised uh population in America

you know there's a Donald Trump is

exploiting a feeling in America among

many many people that they've been left

behind so they're the Hales and the have

knots and the have knots are being led

to believe that because of China's

taking our jobs because of globalization

their lot in life has been weakened

they're not getting the same so the

whole notion of

globalization um has become where it

become to mean something that's been

taken from you and there there are a lot

of people in America that that are not

doing as well and therefore are

vulnerable to a message that says it's

their fault we're going to stop it we're

not going to do trade with them or we're

going to raise tariffs get money from

them you know they're the rhetoric is

trying to play to that weakness um in

the American psyche right now that that

that many people suffer I do think there

is a problem with income disparity there

are some very poor people and there are

some people that are doing better

obviously and that's probably true in

China as well but China has a different

way of addressing it America is is you

know do you believe it's a domestic

problem or rather than blaming China it

definitely has the seeds of it are

domestic but China is an easy um Target

it's an easy uh scapegoat you know what

I mean it's it's so both parties are

piling on and beating up China you saw

the crazy China week 25 bills passed to

against China yeah yeah I do think it's

crazy I think there's a lot of F I know

many scholars who are experts on on

China China's development and us China

relations who believe that the false

narratives about China's intentions as

China Rises there's a fear that China CH

you know will want to take take

America's place in the as a global

Peacekeeper in the world or with global

influence or that China's going to

change our way of life or the communism

is going to slip into the American

political system somehow or culturally

we're going to change you know there

there's there's all these fears because

of false narratives and um unfortunately

you know with the freedom we have in

social media and Communications I can't

imagine how we can you know weed out

fake from real news I I'm not sure that

America has come close to solving the

problem yeah but you as you said America

is a free country why it's so difficult

to gather the truths about China in a

country with FL free flow of information

I that's my question I'm going to ask

you why do you think that I have no idea

I was I think that that because of our

freedoms people can say anything they

want whether it's true or not and if you

say it often enough it becomes truth

Donald Trump has said over and over and

over again that t that the Chinese are

paying for the tariffs the Chinese are

paying for the tariffs we know

economists know everyone who who's got a

who can think for themselves knows that

the American consumers are paying for

the tariffs not China China's is being

punished through tariffs in the

manufacturing is being hit because of

tariffs for sure there's a negative

impact on China but there's a a but the

payment for these tariffs is coming from

America but if you say something over

and over and over again it becomes

truth and there's no way to correct that

truth at least there's no you can't wave

a magic wand you can't make a law or

legislation you know that forces people

to believe that that's false and this is

true you know what I mean yeah people

believe in America many people believe

that the election was was a was a hoax

was a fraud and that there was that that

Trump won big he didn't win big it was

it become clearly established there were

court cases after court case that were

validated the election results in all

these states and yet Trump says it over

and over and over again and his people

believe it I don't I don't understand it

in a day and age where we have such

amazing Communications and transparency

where anybody can get information

easily um still these these false

narratives continue to be propagated and

there's and you can't clean it up I I

wish there was a way to wave that magic

wand people are very curious here in

China saying what is the Fair

competition here us people are always

talking about Fair competition my last

question yeah um Fair competition is an

interesting question because um I've

been doing work here in China for many

years I've also recently been spending a

lot of time in Saudi Arabia and I've

noticed that in countries that are

developing New Economic sectors that the

government plays an important role in

providing um early funding so in Saudi

Arabia they've got a sovereign fund

called piff PF the private investment

fund and they for example started a new

car set automobile Manufacturing sector

and piff put up all the money to start a

company called sear they put up the

biggest chunk maybe all the money uh for

another electric vehicle company that's

got um manufacturing base in the United

States but is building manufacturing so

they're building a whole sector bringing

in supply chain Etc putting all this

money in the idea is that at some point

the car business the car manufacturing

ecosystem will be so big that it will

grow naturally organically without

government Aid so government my my point

is that Sovereign funds whether they're

provincial funds from Anway Province

helping start a car sector or a you know

high-tech business of some kind U or or

whether it's a National Fund those funds

that are invested are perceived by

Americans and by others to be kind of in

the category of unfair trade because

because these car companies or these

other companies were given kind of you

know government subsidies or government

um investment Capital to to ensure that

they would be successful so my question

that I would ask people is it is it

really unfair or is it just smart I mean

I live in a state called Texas we have a

very beautiful state very free economy

we have the largest um you know

petroleum and natural gas resources we

also have the largest wind and Sun where

we we have we're bless like Saudi Arabia

with lots of energy I would think that

if our were governor of Texas I would

form a sovereign fund a state of Texas

fund and I would invest in things like

electric vehicle manufacturing or hybrid

vehicle manufacturing I'm not really a

big believer long-term in electric

vehicles I think especially in America I

think hybrid cars that can get very long

range make more sense but I would I

would seed a build it up and then let it take off on

its own because that's that should be

okay and that I wouldn't consider that

unfair trade I would consider it smart

trade um I do believe though you know

where there's direct subsidy on products

just to beat the price overseas of

course where there's that kind of direct

intervention yes you got to you got to

cut it off and um and not and consider

that unfair and there should be fairness

across the board so yes long crazy

answer yes


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