而TM发现被跟踪时,是什么使他放弃报警而选择"勇敢"地去面对跟踪?害怕报警?还是?
或许他之前的不良记录与此案的确没有任何联系,但他绝不是很多媒体上所说的typical teenager,哪个typical teenager会被suspended from school 3次? O8说他如果有儿子,会像TM一样,笑话,儿子都教育不好还要当总统?
不可以使用 发表评论于 2013-07-16 22:35:14
从头到尾就是个自卫杀人的事.最恶心的就是媒体,老是拿个TM 13岁的照片来博同情.他17岁,为什么媒体不放出他facebook的近照?在GZ被攻击时,他没有可能去调查清楚TM到底几岁是不是unarmed,只要他觉得生命受到威胁时他就有权利开那枪,法律授予的.做出错误行为的不是GZ,基于他的身份职责,基于案发前社区治安状况,他完全有权利那么做--有一读法律的老美说and following someone is not not illegal, read the legal definition of stalking
To jenner1126, if you learned how to read carefully, that is exactly what I said - when I say I THINK, I didn't say that is the fact. You sounded like to be too brainwashed by authorities. Even constitution had many amendments. Btw, only Zimmerman said his head got banged against the concrete. There is no witness for that . The other side is dead.
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 20:06:57
Etornado, Whatever you said is what you think too. I don't think you even know what critical thinking is. Going back to school would be useless for you.
muyuxin 发表评论于 2013-07-16 19:00:46
人不能就这样白杀了，总要付出些代价
Etornado 发表评论于 2013-07-16 15:22:03
To jenner1126: no need to argue with no_fear, he only believe what he think, ignore all the evidences and fact. Look what he wrote "I think he still went for confronting Trayvon...... ", it's all about what he think. Let me make a wild guess, no_fear receive his education from media, such as TV dramas or movies; I suggest that he should head back to school taking Critical Thinking.
jenner1126 发表评论于 2013-07-16 14:44:18
I think he still went for confronting Trayvon is because he thought he was packed. Getting beaten up in a fist fight does not necessarily give you the right to kill.
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To No Fear:
1.That is only YOU THINK, not the FACT.
2. Nobody knows what GZ thought. Jurors only consider facts and evidence.
jenner1126 发表评论于 2013-07-16 14:39:15
To No Fear:
1。911 dispatcher is not police officer, GZ doesn't have to follow his advice.
2.the fight happened near GZ's car not Martin's father's girlfriend's place.That meant GZ walked back and Martin followed him
3.There were multi- eyewitnesses for the fight but you can choose to ignore.
4.when somebody over 6' tall broken your nose, bang your head against concrete curb, it's up to you what to do ,but most people will defend themselves.
5. Many liberals believe that there are flaws in our Constitution and want to abolish it but that is proven the best thing to protect individual rights. If some day ( God forbid) a big, strong man attacks you and you still think there are flaws in " Stand your ground "law, good for you to save your own life.
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 14:12:14
Jenner1126, there is no eyewitness saying Trayvon ambushed Zimmerman. Yes, Zimmerman got beaten up (he asked for it, 911 told him to stand down). I think he still went for confronting Trayvon is because he thought he was packed. Getting beaten up in a fist fight does not necessarily give you the right to kill. There are flaws in Florida's "stand your ground" law. Keep in mind this is different from the Castle doctrine.
The evidence is that GZ had a broken nose and smashed head, while TM had no sign of any bruises or other injury in his dead body but only on gun shot from very close range. Actually TM ambushed GZ when he was walking back to his car in his neighborhood, and there was an eyewitness for the fight to prove GZ was under attack. So who was attacking who?
jenner1126 发表评论于 2013-07-16 12:23:55
More on the Zimmerman trial. Interesting reading.
Stuff that was never admitted to the trial and likely that you never heard in our unbiased media.
“Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms”
- James Madison, considered the father of the US Constitution
哈里斯 发表评论于 2013-07-16 12:09:48
关键一点，这个案子与辛普森案一样受到公正的审判。只是有些人不愿意接受事实而已。
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 11:53:42
To Etornado, how do you know the information jury received was not manipulated? What evidence do you have on NBC? What makes you think the evidence presented to the jury are sounding? You are making assumptions as everybody else without evidence. And this is why I am calling you a hypocrite.
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 11:41:21
Bowne, you should learn how to read. I said "we know ..." If you have sex with an underage person, even you claim you didn't know the person's age, you are still guilty
bowne 发表评论于 2013-07-16 11:32:35
no_fear, you should change your name to no_hope. Do you ask to see a person's id before you break into a fight? How could GZ possibly know how old TM was? All he saw was a big guy taller than him and stronger than him. You are hopeless.
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no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 08:55:18
There are two things we know: 1. An adult and an underage child were in a fist fight; 2. The adult pulled out an gun and killed the child. Now the adult is walking free. Justice is not served!
To no_fear:
Jury don't learn the case from media, they examined all evidences presented by both side; most of things they see or hear are first hand; they were sitting in the court long enough (months?) to make verdict. What and why make you think that the media reporters know more than the jury does? I know that you don't believe the verdict; however, you don't have anything to back yourself up. You are not insider, and you don't know anyone in that court. You just assume. But you know what assume mean, right? Ass-u-me.
Etornado 发表评论于 2013-07-16 10:07:23
Jury don't learn the case from media, they examined all evidences presented by both side; most of things they see or hear are first hand; they were sitting in the court long enough (months?) to make verdict. What and why make you think that the media reporters know more than the jury does? I know that you don't believe the verdict; however, you don't have anything to back yourself up. You just assume. But you know what assume mean, right? Ass-u-me.
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 10:04:50
To 8421, what is your point? All black kids are bad?
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 09:58:20
To almost_1d, grow up!
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 09:55:05
To Etornado, dude, you sounded like you just blindly trust the jury made the right verdict. No I was not there and I don't know the jury. But based on what I read through the media, I don't think the jury is right on this case. I am not trying to convince anybody, but you need to have your own judgement.
Etornado 发表评论于 2013-07-16 09:39:48
To no_fear: "the jury made a wrong decision. The prosecutor lawyer made a wrong decision selecting the jurors." --- well, were you there? have you been working with any of the jury or prosecutor? do you know them personally? what and why do you believe they made wrong decision? "In a case like this where there is potential benefit of doubts, you need to have a good lawyer. This is where the jury system failed." ---- prosecutors are senior lawyers too, why you think they are not good enough? I don't know any of them, but I would like to hear your story.
almost_1d 发表评论于 2013-07-16 09:39:02
到中国去吧，教英文，自食其力，生命有保障。
etornado 发表评论于 2013-07-16 09:33:41
To no_fear: I got your point, but could you please provide evidences to backup your assumption? Why and how did the jurors and the judge screw up?
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 09:17:43
To etornato, the jury made a wrong decision. The prosecutor lawyer made a wrong decision selecting the jurors. In a case like this where there is potential benefit of doubts, you need to have a good lawyer. This is where the jury system failed.
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 08:55:18
There are two things we know: 1. An adult and an underage child were in a fist fight; 2. The adult pulled out an gun and killed the child. Now the adult is walking free. Justice is not served!
To no_fear: yes you are right, we don't know. However, you can't just guess and assume, you need to provide evidence to backup your assumption.In this case,neither the judge nor the jurors knew what happened;they made judgement base on the evidences they have seen.
no_fear 发表评论于 2013-07-16 01:00:36
BS! How do we know it is not GZ who started the fight? He killed an innocent person! A seventeen year old kid! The boy was going home, it was none of GZ's f**king business. He racially profiled the kid, provoked the fight, then he got his ass kicked. He should get at least man slaughter!
