评论: 非死不可?浙大毕业生脸书总部自杀 知情人揭内幕(视频)

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concode 发表评论于 2019-09-24 08:41:00
他为什么不回国呢?奇怪。
老168游 发表评论于 2019-09-23 21:33:53
在职场上,老板让你不开心,你就找工作甩了他/她。哪个公司让老印作你老板,你就要趁早解雇这个公司。
magnet3304 发表评论于 2019-09-23 20:23:16
关键是没有绿卡,H1B换工作又难,让经理坑了一下,现找H1b的工作根本来不及,他又不愿意回国,真的是走投无路了。如果国内的大环境好,回国也是条出路,但现在国内正是政治高压恐怖气氛中,理解他宁愿死也不回国的心情了。
空城之主 发表评论于 2019-09-23 20:09:25
内部的人告诉我,陈勤做的是广告开发,他的部门压力很大。
体制内 发表评论于 2019-09-23 18:42:44
浙大99的真不应该跳,应该让浙大79的跳
ridicu 发表评论于 2019-09-23 17:17:51
看得出来,估计是从来没遇到什么挫折,人生太顺了,出点事就想不开了。
loayumive 发表评论于 2019-09-23 17:04:15
stress?矫情。你降薪去个low stress的地儿呀。
四季如冬 发表评论于 2019-09-23 15:44:21
毕业后两年一跳,直到到了facebook,在Facebook呆了1年8个月,,,就跳楼。

可以回国去啊
7grizzly 发表评论于 2019-09-23 15:39:28
0:30/9:51

... The more I looked into this, the more it became clear to me that people need
to know the story. We need to understand what happened. And FB management, HR,
they are not covering this properly. In fact, rumors are that they are trying to
hide this and not even admit that this is a suicide. They are simply saying that
an employee passed away and that if you need help you should go get some help,
get some consuling. That's about all they are doing now.

... as well as myself that the way he chose to die he tried to send a message
out and FB upper management they are completely ignoring that and they are
sweeping it under the rug.

Anytime sth like this happens, executives will be doing everything they can to
make you forget about it. Maybe they will have a TownHall Meeting in which they
answer a few questions, tell you to get some consuling, call some crisis
numbers, and sweep everything under the rug and in two week they hope you forget
about this whole thing and they won't have to change a thing. Just probably
what's going to happen.

Let me tell you though the details I know about this case. I don't know Qin
personally. I'm still piecing together parts of the story. But the allegation
appears pretty serious which is why I think we need a full investigation. As I
understand it, he was working in the advertising group, which is already a
high-stress group, you know. Any smart technical issue, it can cause millions of
dollars of revenue loss. Now his performance rating was starting to suffer. And
if you are not performing well for multiple quarters, then you are put on the
PIP plan, performance improvement plan, which is essentially the path to you
getting fired.

According to a report, so many people in his team burnt out of stress and
starting to leave.

4:00/9:51

... and the management would squeeze every blood out of ICs to hit PSC goals.
There have been times I wanted to kill myself and were reading our death
benefits that my wife will get if I die at work."

So apparently, Qin was not alone in feeling that high stress environment. The
final straw came in when there was a SEV which is a severe site event,
essentially like a crash where production servers go down or something due to
some technical error and it was assigned to Qin, the SEV review, and apparently
he tried to delay the process, push that review back but internal script
prohibited that and blocked that process. So he was forced to do this and what's
telling was that just an hour before the SEV review, he committed the suicide.
He jumped.

And from this you can kind of paint a picture of the amount of stress he may
have been under: the REV review, the internal transfer being blocked,
performance rating meant that he would be fired soon, not to mention he was also
on an H1B visa. So his ability to remain in the US was also seriously at risk
here. Within 60 days of being let-go he would have to have another visa sponsor
or he would have to return back to China.

Some of you may be wondering with a background like that couldn't he just go get
another job? The thing is, maybe he was mentally ill in some capacity.
Depression is not logical. It is an impulse decision and, you know, I've been
there myself. I have moments too when I've been very depressed. Your heart sinks
your eyelids just want to close. And you know, you take a look at a ledge, a
balcony and you just think "Oh yeah. That's a quick way to end it."

I would encourage any of you who are feelign like this to get some help. They
have a suicide hotline which you can call. But I hope we can honor Qin's death
by making sure that it's not in vain. How sad would it be if in two weeks, two
months, or two years from now, this happen again? Over and over again, and we
just learn nothing.

You know the way he decided to die, I think he tried to make a statement in
such a public fashion. It seems that facebook leadership has simply muted it,
silenced it. They just told people due to privacy concerns and respect for the
family, do not talk about it. And essentially every facebook employee is
now silenced from this censure. Many people don't feel safe talking about this
and it's clear that so many people in that company still feel that culture is
toxic and there is a high degree o...  查看完整评论
ljcn 发表评论于 2019-09-23 15:37:33
逼死他的并不一定是他boss,毕竟工作被裁,玩斗争失败,哪里都有,就算回国,也不相信找不到工作(当然,国内38确实是个问题,但有FB经验,还是不难),而是他周围人对他的期待。老婆期望他养家糊口,家里父母指望他工作顺利,身体健康,亲戚朋友指望他升官发财好谋利。。。。等你fail了所有人的期待,拖家带口回国,就是loser,惨的不是丢工作本身,而是周围人的异样眼光。基本就很难有立足之地了。所以应该反对一切亲戚朋友之间的吹牛逼互相攀比。老中聚会全是这个,真是生命毒药。
worley 发表评论于 2019-09-23 15:30:52
不要以为facebook出来的,各个公司都抢着要。要看你干的什么职位。如果你在facebook做网页开发,出来找工作也没啥优势。
十具 发表评论于 2019-09-23 15:23:59
非常同情,他的家庭太惨了。浙大毕业,到美国念一个course Master,真不一定“非常优秀”(鄙人有不算太小的一手样本)。眼高手低+社会阅历浅+从小家庭学校汉式成功学灌输,不出精神状况都难。呆不了美国就是the end of the world?

非常钦佩视频里这个勇敢发声的东亚人,无论谁都不可以被上司恶意玩弄,如果指控属实的话。
abigapple 发表评论于 2019-09-23 15:19:00
为啥要自杀?老美都是咱干的,大家都清楚吧。这种自杀没有任何意义。
很老留学生 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:48:50
Evaluatiom 在美国职场是一件大事,特别在10%末位淘汰的机制成熟的大公司。我工作的公司根据下面五个方面给雇员评分, 其他公司应该差不多。
1, Professional skill 2,Project performance 3. Team worker attitude 4. Communication skill 5. Seniority.

对于我们中国人,在 4 和 5 的评分会吃亏,3 往往要看个人的性格和处世能力,1 能够拿到工作一般 1 应该可以。关键就在 2 了。如果 2 不好很难保住工作,必须充分有所准备。
Thunderpark 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:41:01
所以不要一味贪图高工资到硅谷洛杉矶这种地方上班,尤其是家里只有一个人上班还有两个小孩的。 风险太大,也没什么回旋余地。。。
Thunderpark 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:38:45
很多人家里一个人上班,又在高消费区域工作,可能都留不下什么存款。 被免了职,全家很难维继。 一点存款估计都付了房子的首付(可能还欠了亲友父母的钱)。 没工作怎么继续供房,还是DEFAULT? 连首付的钱都扔了? 老婆整天忙小孩,可能都不止一个孩子。 苦啊, 不是一般的惨。。。
scbean 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:38:10
太优秀,一路顺。经不起挫折,可惜!

佼佼者易折。
西门桥 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:33:00
国内的学校教育,没有任何Resilience 的训练和培养,导致一些人一旦进入什么500强600强,或者取得一点成就就觉得光宗耀祖了, 遇到一点挫折就心理崩溃。这其实也是为什么中国这个国家赚了点钱就觉得自己是世界老大了,牛得不行了。遇到点事动不动就唱国歌,再稍微多点就差不多要搞义和团了。
纷纷繁繁 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:32:23
我们大陆来的人,很多是或多或少信奉“社会达尔文主义”,对自己的要求是只能成功不能失败。
可是什么又是成功呢?在Facebook里面做个螺丝钉一样的马公就是成功吗?反之被解雇就是失败吗?
只不过是一份工作而已。此处不留爷自有留爷处。
AreyouOK? 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:29:08
The last draw collapses the camel is that Green Card... ... not worth it.
RIP
邮政编码279 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:27:58
其实欧洲人才是最小气,最小心眼还爱装的。凭自己实力吃饭的人,切记不要对他人存幻想,凡事适可而止,太艰难的时候,放过自己,就算退出江湖也不会死人的。
WWTP 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:26:02
我们公司也有人自杀,HR都只会告诉大家是pass away,没有一个HR会告诉大家真正的死因吧。
placidworld 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:15:27
No company is taking care of their employees at current world. We have been gone through rounds of rounds of layoff, reorg. Then finally, the company decided not to pay severance package so they can CUT COST. Now everyone is living in hell - the so called leadership purposely make everyone uncomfortable, disaster, so employee will have to leave; or they will MAP you a role you know it is not your right fit, then you will get low-performance and forced out. And all the cause is there are some cheaper incompetent outsourcing people there to replace us.
衡山老道 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:13:17
不要以为欧洲人就不欺负人,他们也有很多心理阴暗的。若他有一个善良的manager,会给他足够的时间。
Gooddevil 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:11:00
太可惜了,中国人这方面真应该学习白人黑人,走之前真应该带走他的该死的manager
不思进取 发表评论于 2019-09-23 14:00:16
不由得想起Bertrand Russell曾说过中国人不怕死,
可是您倒是不怕在个正地方啊。。。**sigh**

耶稣说,我就是生命的粮,到我这里来的,必定不饿,信我的,永远不渴。
Jimmy1103_随便 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:43:00
我们从小被教育好好学习,没教会为人处事,社交沟通。要么妄自菲薄,要么狂妄自大。屁大的事情就受不了了。
边走边瞧 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:39:27
他的manager(欧洲裔)和同组的同事(统统华裔)没有一个是南亚裔的。这些散布谣言的人居心叵测。
不思进取 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:31:18
此处不留爷,自有留爷处?
处处不留爷,才把爷难住。
tree1889 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:28:30
和生命比起来,工作就是个P。 放了就过去了。什么大不了的?吓唬谁呢? 不是健康出了问题,都是小事一桩。
xiaofriend 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:27:00
内幕就是 被烙印经理欺骗 答应给好的评语 结果给了个差评 结果换组不成 进入被裁的程序
lzh0007 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:26:52
1999~2013 Zhejiang University
xiaofriend 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:25:00
On H1- 被雇主压榨 比较没有转换工作的自由 不过没有什么比生命更宝贵的了 千万不要想不开 人挪活
路过2013 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:21:44
请不要发这种标题党的文章,总是内幕内幕的,点开看了发现什么都没说,在facebook工作了不到两年,那应该和Facebook的关系不大啊。
limitation 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:19:37
put his manager to jail.
WOLF2014 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:16:00
此处不留爷,自有留爷处。
worley 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:15:42
据说跟老印一起工作,功劳是老印的,出了问题黑锅是他背,所以想不开就跳楼了。
脸书应该公开真相,到底他是否被公平对待。
WOLF2014 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:14:00
原因?
worley 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:12:55
传说是长期被老印欺负羞辱,真相到底是什么?
意大利通心粉 发表评论于 2019-09-23 13:12:08
老印爬升,老中跳楼。美国职场文化还真是重印轻中
Liantao 发表评论于 2019-09-23 12:59:04
18岁就浙大毕业?肯定是够优秀的。RIP
size0 发表评论于 2019-09-23 12:58:16
太优秀了,过往经历太顺了,一个失业坎儿,或者失恋坎儿就过不去了。人生道路充满变数,不要把自己看得过高,但是要珍爱生命!
Weipan 发表评论于 2019-09-23 12:53:46
父母要给孩子从小打预防针,生活总有不如意的时候,不要绝望,问题总有解决的时候。这些优秀的人,受挫折少,遇事一下子就慌乱了,没有受挫折训练。
说一说2 发表评论于 2019-09-23 12:52:25
内幕呢?
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