The Chinese Communist Party dispatches spy's several data to the overseas
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Subject: The Chinese Communist Party dispatches spy's several data to the overseas [Abundant news forum]
Several data:
The preceding period of time, a friend tells me a data: Said when Jiang Zemin is in power, some people to river Ze The people suggested that, the colored strength recovers the corrupt officials to shift to the overseas property. Jiang Zemin replied: This matter The sentiment cannot do, the 90's during ten years, we send out 290,000 special agents to the overseas, certainly carries over The massive properties, pursue the property to be able to expose these people. According to this friend calculated, this 290,000 The person, probably is equal to the same time mainland migrates the overseas population 1/5. Estimates in 2000 by After, the Chinese Communist Party sends out the population are more, in addition passes for several dozens years, the mainland in the overseas spy, at least Perhaps several hundred thousand, surpasses million. In this part of person, naturally can have a part to use for to cope with the opposition Faction. So long as sends out 1/1,000 permeating civil transport, has occupied the civil transport public figure's overwhelming majority.
Must use 1%, the effective seepage, sufficiently controls including the Voice of America, free Asia, BBC and each major and medium article newspaper overseas Chinese media. In addition formidable national strength, package Includes the economical, commercial, cultural, the education strength support, in addition civil transport and opposition faction strength in this The aspect is completely ignorant, likes the blind person, the deaf person, only can passively come under attack, their difficult situation, Is not strange.
[ Recently Chinese Communist Party official news that, In 2006 a year, China goes abroad the population, including long-term and short-term, is
More than 30 million, and estimated surpasses 100000000 to 2012. ]
(Sushui is good 2006-12-25)
Share attainment Zhang Jing Each:
Participation civil transport many years, summarized a dessert, think and everybody share.
Last year, FBI announced a numeral, recent years Chinese Communist Party through cultural exchange, including academic performance
The reason enters US spy, at least 100,000 people. This does not include opens the company to do business with it His name appears. sounds a little to be terrorist, but the American saw a lot, not in within the boundaries The scene catches the evidence, watches critically, once attained the evidence to make an arrest or the action of driving away leaves country, like this The news frequently appears. Certainly, in the judicial process a little selects the slight defect, then could not enter the crime, like California Chen Wenying the document, because judge thought the prosecutor has a link not to complete, abolished her to be guilty The massive evidence become the scrap paper. but, the anti- □□Counterrevolutionary role was plays, at least they thought this The coarse thread was has restrained. this is American's procedure, grasps was cannot grasp, if lets the new appearance leave Presently, was inferior to leaves behind the old countenance to look he performs.
Introduces my subject. in we this loose troop, how do Chinese Communist Party's informers possibly absent ? In the time long will of the people all has the number in the circle, which people are in the moral behavior morals question, Which people are the disposition question, which people are the muddled station wrong standpoint, which people are for a while truly are bringing no matter what The service comes. regarding the first three kinds, may adopt advising, the unity, containing, also may cut off the personal friendship, Even does not pass away the intercourse,
only in resists the Chinese Communist Party in each kind of activity to have to cooperate, because that is Our common idea, is we is forced to leave native place goes into exile the overseas common reason; To finally that kind of person Because does not have the evidence, cannot easily absurdly draw the conclusion, abstained from everywhere says, so long as in the heart understood does not receive About its standpoint viewpoint then, we greatly may be the personal good friend with this kind of person, to civil transport advantageous The matter goes about something with a free hand, cooperation Counterrevolutionary, but the principle is, the personal relationships influence, is not changed the standpoint, is firm Defends the agent.
Infiltrates in our troop Chinese Communist Party spies, possibly have the full-time employment half duty and record a division, so long as receives
The above principle, ten thousand changes does not leave throughout, does not have any to be greatly great! This is "in you has me, in me
Has you ". in New York, very many people all said this circle chaotic atmosphere is not good, but has point is very heavy Wants, the civil transport general orientation and the mainstream have not walked crookedly, has not deviated our original intention, we do together
The active person, common quarrels, also some Lian Huadu, has not had the personal friendship, usually each The association does respective matter,
but foreign or when has the big activity, everybody throughout the standpoint is consistent, Cooperates. to nearly to play the card together or the extremely undisguised suspect, should get rid of when gets rid of, I All cannot be bullied! Last year, we on publicly resisted some too to be excessive so-called established brand "the people Transports the public figure "to attend the conference and the activity which our people unites, the reason certainly is not he is the spy (because of us
Is impossible to have the evidence which provides by the Chinese Communist Party), only is aims at his certain behaviors and long-standing asking The topic, thought he has betrayed the civil transport public figure's basic standpoint, in New York, regardless of he does hit how in all directions The telephone rails, the on-line attack fabricates a rumor, throughout does not have the market, because this kind depends on the government medicine to guarantee the relief actually May pay own expenses attends the global each place civil transport conference, the name disdains the civil transport public figure, often to come in and go out in private in a big way The land and the unimpeded unimpeded person said the speech, lets the person believe with difficulty. Perhaps, when a section once in a while in other The area, he possibly again enters in our circle, we certainly hold the opening manner, can participation works
Good, we still persevere the agent.
In view of some people said "the spy also may do the civil transport" the opinion, I have such view: We and Center The altogether standpoint is completely opposite, has a his party alone big political system existence, we only have are imprisoned run away Perishes; Has our position to want the free democracy, is impossible the political party which has rules as a dictatorship, the water and fire not Accommodates. the middle ash line merely is, we overthrow in the dictatorship rule, the system by any type way open The bright public figure possibly initiates fission, but the procedure, the shape are completely different, this is respective status background Decides. Is the informer for the Chinese Communist Party the person, we regard as the vicious dog, the dog although have learned person's one side, But has the essentially difference with the person, moreover is nips the person the vicious dog! Proud, only has is Its master, what mood the person which nips is had to go for it sings the praises? The spy does the civil transport is
Must destroy the civil transport, we do the civil transport are must destroy the Chinese Communist Party, namely its master, the two only has in its one The hideaway or under the change standpoint situation can walk together, otherwise, still the water and fire does not accommodate. I thought This opinion calculated the achievement teases, is not appropriate may not take.
[ Presses: The Chinese Communist Party "the spy also may do the civil transport", but in US, they must first surrender to FBI prepares
The document, is legitimate. Does not surrender sets up a file does the civil transport is illegal, violates the American law, is Cannot do!
- Network digest editor 2005-1-21 date ]
In technical highly developed today, we encircle do not have the secret, you said, all quarters which does can Knew, therefore, has the question, has the different opinion, publicly indicates, the direct inquiry, but reply Also publicly clears up suspicions, this is dispels misunderstanding the reduced contradictory good method, this also is the democratic spirit and individual The right coexists manifesting, simultaneously, everybody may understand each other the idea, promotes the exchange, otherwise, I Clears the on-line group function on greatly gives the discount
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送交者: 徐水良 于 北京时间 01/11/2007 (1079 reads) [徐水良累积7410分]
主题：中共向海外派遣特务的几个数据
[博讯论坛]
几个数据：
前一段时间，一个朋友告诉我一个数据：说江泽民当政时，有人向江泽
民建议，花力量追回贪官们转移到海外的财产。江泽民回答说：这件事
情不能做，九十年代十年间，我们向海外派出29万特工人员，当然带出
大量财产，追财产就会把这些人暴露出来。据这个朋友推算，这29万
人，大约相当于同期大陆移居海外的人数的五分之一。估计2000年以
后，中共派出的人数更多，加上过去几十年，大陆在海外的间谍，至少
几十万，也许超过百万。这部分人中，自然会有一部分用来对付反对
派。只要派出其中千分之一渗入民运，就占了民运人士的绝大多数。只
要动用百分之一，有效渗透，就足以控制包括美国之音、自由亚洲、
BBC和各大中文报纸在内的海外中文媒体。再加上强大的国家力量，包
括经济、商业、文化、教育力量的支持，再加上民运和反对派力量在这
方面的完全无知，像瞎子、聋子，只能被动挨打，他们的艰难处境，也
就毫不奇怪。
[近日中共官方报道：2006年一年，中国出国人数，包括长期和短期，是
3000多万，并估计到2012年超过1亿。]
（徐水良2006-12-25）
分享心得
张菁
各位：
参加民运多年，总结了一点心得，想与大家分享．
去年，FBI公布了一个数字，近年中共通过文化交流，包括学术演艺
等理由进入美国的间谍，至少十万人。这还不包括以开设公司经商和其
他名义出现的．听起来是乎有点恐怖，但美国人见得多了，没有在境内
现场逮到证据，就冷眼旁观，一旦拿到了证据就抓人或驱赶出境，这样
的新闻常常出现。当然，司法程序上有点点瑕疵，便入不了罪，如加州
陈文英案，就因法官认为检方有一个环节没有做好，就撤销了她所有罪
名，大量的证据变为废纸．但是，阻嚇作用是起到了，至少他们认为这
条线是收敛了．这就是美国人的做法，抓是抓不完的，与其让新面目出
现，不如留下老嘴脸看他表演。
引入我的正题．在我们这个松散的队伍中，中共的眼线怎可能缺席
呢？在圈中时间长一点的人心里都有数，哪些人是人品道德上的问题、
哪些人是性格问题、哪些人是一时糊涂站错立场、哪些人是真正带着任
务而来．对于前三种，可以采取劝导、团结、包容，也可以断绝私交、
甚至老死不相往来，唯一在对抗中共的各种活动中必须协作，因为那是
我们的共同理念，是我们背井离乡流亡海外的共同原因；对最后那种人
因没有证据，不能轻易妄下定论，更忌讳到处去讲，只要心里明白不受
其立场观点左右即可，我们大可与这种人作私人好朋友，对民运有利的
事就放手去做，合作反共，而原则是，不受私情影响、不改变立场、坚
守底线．
混进我们队伍中的中共特务，可能有全职半职及记件之分，只要秉承
上述原则，万变不离始终，没什么大了不起！这是＂你中有我，我中也
有你＂．在纽约，很多人都说这个圈又乱风气又不好，但有一点很重
要，民运的大方向和主流没有走歪，没有偏离我们的初衷，我们一起搞
活动的人，常见吵架，也有连话都没有一句，更没有私交的，平时各个
团体搞各自的事情，但对外或一旦有大的活动时，大家始终立场一致、
共同协作．对几乎打正牌或十分露骨的可疑分子，该出手时就出手，我
们一点都不好欺负！去年，我们就公开抵制某个太过分的所谓老牌＂民
运人士＂参加我们民联的会议和活动，理由并不是他是特务（因为我们
不可能有由中共提供的证据），只是针对他的某些行为及长期存在的问
题，认为他已背叛了民运人士的基本立场，在纽约，无论他怎样四处打
电话谩骂、网上攻击造谣，始终没有市场，因为这种靠政府医保救济却
可自费参加全球各地民运会议、私下又称不屑为民运人士、时常出入大
陆并畅通无阻的人说的话，难以让人信服。或许，过一段时间或在其它
地区，他可能再进入我们的圈中，我们当然是抱开放态度，能参与做事
就好，我们依然坚守底线。
针对有人说“特务也可以搞民运”的言论，我有这样的看法：我们与
中
共的立场绝然相反，有他一党独大的政治体制存在，我们只有坐牢逃
亡；有我们的主张要自由民主，就不可能有独裁的政党，水火不相
容．中间的灰线仅仅是，我们以什么样的方式推翻独裁统治、体制内开
明人士可能引发的裂变，但做法、形态完全不同，这是各自的身份背景
所决定的。为中共做眼线的人，我们视为恶狗，狗虽有通人性的一面，
但与人就是有本质上的区别，况且是咬人的恶狗！引以为豪的，只有是
它的主人，一个被咬的人有什么心情去为它歌功颂德呢？特务搞民运是
要搞垮民运，我们搞民运是要搞垮中共，即它的主人，二者只有在其一
隐藏或改变立场的情形下才能走到一起，否则，依然水火不容。我认为
此言论就算作为调侃，不贴切也不可取。
[按：中共“特务也可以搞民运”，但在美国，他们必须先向FBI自首备
案，才是合法的。不自首备案搞民运就是非法的，违反美国法律，就是
不能搞！
——网路文摘编者 2005-1-21日]
在科技高度发达的今天，我们圈中没有秘密，你说的做的，各方都会
知道，因此，有问题，有不同意见，就公开表述、直接提问，而回答者
也公开释疑，这是消除误会减少矛盾的好方法，这也是民主精神和个人
权利并存的体现，同时，大家可了解彼此的想法，增进交流，否则，我
们开通的网上group的作用就大打折扣
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