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The Purpose of Purpose - Richard Dawkins

Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science 
 
600,345 views Jun 19, 2009 #4809

During Richard Dawkins' American tour in March 2009, he gave a talk titled "The Purpose of Purpose". I travelled with Richard to these cities and filmed the talks, which I've edited together here. The content of the talk remains intact, while the editing moves between the different locations and Richard's Keynote presentation.

Produced by The Richard Dawkins Foundation and R. Elisabeth Cornwell Filmed and edited by Josh Timonen See more about Richard Dawkins' upcoming book "The Greatest Show on Earth" here: http://richarddawkins.net/thegreatest...

This talk was given in Michigan, Minneapolis, Oklahoma and Nebraska. Filmed at: University of Minnesota - Minneapolis, Minnesota University of Oklahoma - Norman, Oklahoma Holland Performing Arts Center - Omaha, Nebraska

Introductions by: PZ Myers - Minneapolis, Minnesota Barry Weaver - Norman, Oklahoma Richard Holland - Omaha, Nebraska Filmed and Edited by Josh Timonen Shot on Red One #4809

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Authors: Richard Dawkins,

Stephen Hawking, Douglas Adams, and Carl Sagan.

his book, The Blind Watchmaker.

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21:55 "It's a nice example of the fact that evolution can be a predictive science..." I love that sentence. It shows how knowing something that is indeed true leads to better decisions, because better decisions require the ability to predict outcomes. And that, in my opinion is the purpose of human's curiosity in the first place.
 
If we didn't want to know things, we could've died out by now. This is also the reason for why religion must be stopped. Religion is made to block questioning. It substitutes answers with fake ones and corrupts our basic tool for survival and comfortable life.
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I don't consider Dawkins to be a great debater (possibly because he is to honest and nice to realize the shit that his opponents will pull) and not even the best spokesman for atheism. But if you can watch a lecture by this man and not feel some level of awe at his intellect, you should be removed from the human gene pool.

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the 2001 and 2012 Emperor Has No Clothes Award 

Dawkins topped Prospect magazine's 2004 list of the top 100 public British intellectuals.

In 2012, a Sri Lankan team of ichthyologists headed by Rohan Pethiyagoda named a new genus of freshwater fish Dawkinsia in Dawkins's honor. (Members of this genus were formerly members of the genus Puntius).[194]

he was listed by Time magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2007,[190] and was ranked 20th in The Daily Telegraph's 2007 list of 100 greatest living geniuses.[191]

 Dawkins was voted the world's top thinker based on 65 names chosen by a largely US and UK-based expert panel.[188]

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The phrase "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" was popularized by Carl Sagan.

 
paraphrasing Marcello Truzzi : "An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof".
 
Earlier Laplace had written: "The weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness.".
 
And David Hume wrote in 1748: "A wise man .. proportions his belief to the evidence."
 
You published an article called "Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder" in the Reports of the NCSE vol 17 issue 1 page 8 in 1997. ncse.com/rncse/17/1/science-delusion-appetite-wonder 
 
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Dawkins missed a really obvious reply to that girl's question about why atheism over agnosticism, why certainty over uncertainty? It's fucking infuriating how so many people STILL don't get that atheism is NOT the absolute assertion that no God exists. It is simply the lack of a belief that one does. Theism, agnosticism and atheism are not three points on the same curve. There are only two points on the belief curve, theism and atheism. If you are not a theist, that means you lack a positive belief in a God, which makes you an atheist. End of story. Gnosticism or agnosticism deals with knowledge, a completely different question. How do so many people still misunderstand this really basic sh*t?
 
I'd like to add something to help answer the question from the girl at 1:12:33. In a general sense, there isn't really a difference between an agnostic and an atheist. However, just as with a strong vs. weak anthropic principle, there is a strong and weak atheism.
 
The weak atheistic position is the typical agnostic stance that says one is not convinced that there is a god, but they don't know it to be certain that there isn't a god. The strong atheistic position is the one the girl assumed was the only interpretation of atheism, where they are absolutely certain that no god can exist. The typical atheist is a weak atheist, and I would argue that the generalization of atheism would better be suited to that interpretation. However, on another note, I am a strong atheist.
 
I have discovered ways to determine that there can be no god. A scientific approach would generally not accept such a claim of certainty, and this is because most of science operates on the premise of observable evidence and the analysis thereof. However, science also operates from the basis of reason, and statements such as "inquiring as to the color of height would be invalid" are true statements.
 
This statement is true because there is an inherent incompatibility between color and height. Asking such a question is simply incoherent. There is importance to this method of reasoning. It establishes a priori truths, absent observation, which are certain. I have used this same method to discover that there is no space (domain space; not position space) for any god to exist. This is an a priori conclusion, and it is acquired without observation.
 
A priori: knowledge deduced through pure reason and justified independently from that of experience or observation. I would argue that this is the only means by which such a strong position could be achieved, and I don't intend to undermine the very real application of the scientific method. There are extremely useful applications based on levels of certainty that are understood via the scientific method, and much of our technology functions because of these scientific facts.
 
However, an issue of such importance as the mechanism which grants my presence is far too important for me to be content with probabilities, however great they might be. Dawkins has stated that he couldn't be fully convinced of anything by observation, even if a 500-foot-tall Jesus appeared before him and pledged the existence of a god. He would still have some level of doubt because of theoretical possibilities like hallucinations and simulated universes.
 
This is what makes a priori understandings such a unique tool of reason. They simply don't require observation to be true. I can reply with more information on my process if anybody is interested.

 

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The Theory of Evolution does not impose any restrictions on any characteristics of  Life, including the characteristic of Intelligence.  Nor does it impose any restrictions on what Life, using its potentially unlimited Intelligence, could create, including what we may commonly refer to as a 'creator'.  
 
And even though the process of  Evolution may not require a Creator, Evolution itself poses no restrictions on one being created by the Evolutionary process itself.  This theory does not impose any restrictions on  how or where Life can be created.  
 
The first life could have been created long before the Earth was ever formed, allowing adequate time for the evolving of such super Intelligence.  Nothing in the Theory of Evolution restricts this from happening.  Even if this may be an extremely rare event, remember that Evolutionist themselves consider  the creation of Life to be exactly that, an extremely rare event. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv9FdMWt5T4 

Richard Dawkins- 'An Appetite for Wonder' at Stanford University

100,098 views Dec 5, 2013
'An Appetite for Wonder' Fall 2013 Tour- Stanford University on 6 Oct. 2013. Richard Dawkins is interviewed by Greg Stikeleather about his book "An Appetite for Wonder: The Making of Scientist", part one of his memoir, starting from his birth to the publication of "The Selfish Gene" in 1979. Brought to you by: The Secular Coalition of America (http://www.secular.org) Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science (http://www.richarddawkins.net) The Humanist Connection (http://www.stanfordhumanist.org/‎) AHA@Stanford (http://www.aha.stanford.edu/)
 
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