有Group member 在问CPA找工作的问题,我先预定这个版面啦

在美国的华人为了能够令自己得生活过的好一点,或挑战自我,努力去考CPA.但又有几人能明白大家的心情呢
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第一个工作问题,有人提过,请讨论一下:

但是如果没工作经验,你是CPA,CFA,应聘entry level,会不会有overqualified的问题呢?

第二个工作问题,本人正在找工作,已经有一月啦.听说现在会计很容易找工作,可是还没有什么音信.
我主要找的是政府工,登记了二十份审计工作,都是联邦政府.但又不知道够不够,再申请多几十份才够?如果你们有看我的简历,其实我一直都在为人民服务.去年我在政府做审计的时候心情奇好.你在BIG 4也许不很厉害,但是到了政府,你可是顶尖级人马.保证一年升一级.如果你们有移民局的经历,其实跟平民讲话的都是小官,看他们的口气,好牛啊...........GS-9(副县长待遇, 多小的官,从七品) 以上的人永远也不用见customer.我老板GS-13,(副州长的待遇)几个平时是上帝一般的团长(军队里面长官就是再生父母)见了她都要毕恭毕敬.我坐在老板的前面,团长们路过了以为我是什么新来的高手.居然招呼问好.有幸我的几个老板都是13,他们的地位雷打不动,都没比我们这些菜鸟多读几年书,不知何是CPA,竟然是总预算师.很多CPA混了一辈子还是个Controller.

没什么,就是年轻的时候比其他人每天多干了一个小时.中年的时候比别人反而干得都少.去那里找这样的工作啊.如果你在BIG 4,要多干几天一个星期.如果你真的不想发财,没什么区别.政府的综合待遇比BIG 4 的好.我混在里面几年了,造就了我这样一代想吃纳税人钱粮的新人. 如果你想干一番惊天动地的事业,政府也可以,官大了,可以直接上书到议会改预算,提审计报告,你退休前会有机会的.

可惜我混的是小城市大部门,现在想找个大城市小一点也可以的部门居然找苦了.你们有谁有找政府工作的经验呢,是不是要多申请几十个工作啊.现在政府的都是网上申请了,懒得见你,顺便查查你的祖宗是干什么的.还有,BIG 4 我都申请了,他们比政府的人还牛啊,居然像打火箭一样,去了不回.BIG 4去不了,BIG 20 我也申请了,他们也是小牛啊.虽然我不是什么名校毕业,但拒绝信也给我一封啊.

请你们提些意见,好让我再努力一下. 谢谢啊.




初夏的果实 发表评论于
I'm going to take CPA exam in CA. I'm evaluated my coursework right now.

The bachelor degree I got from China has been accepted by board-approved agency, but the agency didn't show how many units in accounting courses, how many units in business-related courses.CA board requires 24 units in Accounting and 24 units in Business-related.

My major is Business and Economics, so I think the units in accounting courses are not enough. I realized from website of CA Board of Accountancy, the courses I took from a vocational school are acceptale, but this school just evaluates coursework by hour, not unit. Could anybody advise how many hours are required by CA board of Accountancy? How can I do in this situation? Thank you for any reply.
alicewye 发表评论于
回复枯鸦的评论:
You're welcome! Good luck!
枯鸦 发表评论于
回复alicewye的评论:
thanks a lot for the information. I have sent out my application to CES. After making a quick accessment, I have made decision to sit for Delaware States. I know that whole lot factors will be involved regarding certification and license, well, I'm going to warry about it until the time comes. However, I really do appreciate your prompt response.
alicewye 发表评论于
回复枯鸦的评论:
Also, if you have any question about the process, please be more detail, so that we can help. :)
alicewye 发表评论于
回复枯鸦的评论:
I think you should follow whatever the board website asks you to do, because they are the one to process and say yes to your case.
fsnb8118 发表评论于
回复枯鸦的评论:
I just sent your question though the group email. I will let you know if there is any update news. Thanks.
枯鸦 发表评论于
fsnb8118,
想请教一下报考Delaware州的情况。我打算今年7月考,还没报名,网上找了好多资料,太杂,也去了Delaware的board网页。想在报名前得高人指点!多谢!
Chunky 发表评论于
回复fsnb8118的评论:
In CA, you have to send everything including the check to the agency, or they won't process. :)
fsnb8118 发表评论于
回复初夏的果实的评论:
Try not to pay anything up front!!! They are accoutants expert in cash collection. It took me three days to finish the packet.
Chunky 发表评论于
回复初夏的果实的评论:
Send your sealed tran and diploma to th evaluation agency. They will send the evaluated tran to CA board. It won't take 9-month. At most 2 months.
初夏的果实 发表评论于
Thank everybody for your answer.They are really helpful.

I have already checked website of Board of California Accountancy and got a lot of information.I know the firstble is evaluation.The evaluation report will be available in 9 months. Is that correct?
Chunky 发表评论于
回复初夏的果实的评论:
Evaluate your tran first. You can check out all the information you need from CA accounting board. If you have questions, call them. They are really helpful on phone.
alicewye 发表评论于
回复初夏的果实的评论:
Hi. I hope my little information can help.
1. go to CA accountancy board website to check for the requiremen(http://www.dca.ca.gov/cba/forms/exambk1.pdf).
Check the FAQ. It has a detail page about foreign education.
2. Evaluation your tran from China. (website has info). As I know, community college credits which can be transfers to a 4 year university are countable towards to the eduacation requirement in NorthCarolina. But double check with the accountacy board in CA.
3. Once you applied, approved, you will get a NTS, then you can schedule your exam by that time. :)
Hope this can help.
初夏的果实 发表评论于
本人在南加州,菜鸟一只,甚至都不知如何开始evaluation credit,很希望能有前辈及同道中人来指点一二。我在国内贸易经济本科毕业,学习过会计课程,但不是major, 在美国没有相关学历,只是在社区大学晚上上accounting的基础课程,同时在一家wholesale公司做全职bookkeeper.很希望能在这个专业里有进一步发展,希望不是痴人说梦。
能否恳请各位不吝赐教,如何入门?例如如何报名,如何审核学分,如果学分不够,能有多久可以补上学分?报名后多久必须考试?考试流程是怎样的?
抱歉这么多菜鸟问题。多谢答复,并保持联络。
fsnb8118 发表评论于
回复Chunky的评论:
Hhahahahaha, from GS-9 to Gs-12 is non-competitive position, raise once a year. GS-12 above you have to compete with others........but all you need is MBA!!!! hahahahaha. My boss doesn't have a degree.......they cannot fire her, but send her to school for a year with pay........what kind job is that.

By the way, you can go up really fast in the government, but you have to win the election to be a leader.....I cannnot speak that kind of good English to win 2008 election.
Chunky 发表评论于
You are soooo funny. I showed your article to my husband. He said: Wow...Promotion every year!!! You will be our President in a few years!!! Hahahah.... We enjoy your article....Keep on.
alicewye 发表评论于
fsnb8118: 搞笑!!!我也在找工作,我不介意小城市大部门, 什么时候也介绍我去做做啊。 哈哈哈。
alicewye 发表评论于
Hello, is anyone here working for accounting firms? I just graduated in Dec. 2006, B.S. Accounting. I am looking for jobs, could anyone give me some advice? For example, big company vs.small company, accounting firm vs. corporation ect. Thanks a lot.
alicewye 发表评论于
回复quicklearner的评论:
I agree with you. Actually I like the way how the CPA exam design. Before taking the exam, I learn most of the stuff from school, but just learn, never really apply to a case, but CPA exams require us to understand and know how to apply. Great experience!
quicklearner 发表评论于
I dont know about CFA, but as far as CPA, you have to have at least one year qualified working experience to be a CPA.To me, learning is the key, so no overqualify issue.
fsnb8118 发表评论于
回复oharaJP的评论:
Please check my updates in the other section, I got an article for you.
oharaJP 发表评论于
Hi, there. This is a great Blog. Well, I just graduated in Toronto with a bachelor degree major in business administration. I am planning to take severl accounting course then to write the CPA test. My question is since I don't have any working experience in accouting field, can I still write the test to get a CPA certificate first. If so, which state will you guys recommend for me? Thank you so much.
alicewye 发表评论于
顶一下!
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CPA是注册会计师(Certified Public Accoutant)的英文缩写,是指依法取得注册
会计师证书并接受委托从事审计和会计咨询、会计服务业务的执业人员。注册会
计师主要承接的工作有审查企业的会计报表,出具审计报告;验证企业资本,出
具验资报告;办理企业合并、分立、清算事宜中的审计业务,出具有关的报告;
法律、行政法规规定的其他审计业务等。尤其是在执行上市公司审计时,注册会
计师不仅要鉴证一个公司是否遵循了法律、法规和制度,而且还要判定其会计报
表是否遵循了真实性、公允性和一贯性原则。由注册会计师依法执行审计业务出
具的报告,具有证明效力。

英国特许公认会计师公会
(The Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, 简称 ACCA)
成立于1904年,是目前全球最大的国际会计师组织。ACCA 的国际地位举足轻重,
联合国于确定其环球课程时, 亦是以ACCA 的课程作为蓝本。



学员完成14张考卷并积累3年相关工作经验,可申请成为ACCA 会员,并授予 “特
许公认会计师”称衔,可使用ACCA作为头衔。

ACCA是世界上大多数国家都承认的,但是由于地方保护主义,也就是保护本国的会
计师,虽然在企业任职可以,在事务所做鉴证业务就不行了,举例:ACCA在中国可以
作到跨国公司的CFO,但是不能在审计报告上签字.目前为止,能在国内审计报告上
签字的只有CPA,CPA分为执业和非执业两种,看清楚,是执业不是职业,执业可以在
审计报告上签字,非执业不行,但是可以在企业任职,不过要想进入跨国公司还要英
语好,CPA共有5科:会计审计财务成本管理经济法税法,要求在5年之内全部通
过,否则到第六年还未全部通过的话,第一年的成绩作废,第七年还未全过,则第二
年的成绩作废,以此类推,即单科成绩有效5年.ACCA一共14科,分为三个阶段,第一
阶段3科,第二阶段6科,第三阶段5科,单科成绩有效10年,中国和英国有互相承认
的协议,所以通过CPA的考ACCA可以免考第一阶段全部课程和第二阶段的13课
程,另外第三部分5科中前两科是从4科中选两科,如果发展方向是企业就选企业
方向,如果发展方向是事务所就选鉴证方向,第三部分的后3科必须在一次考试中
同时报名,不允许分着报名,且必须三科全过才有效,如果只过两科,那么没过的
一科也要达到40分,这样过了的两科成绩可以保留一次,如果没够40分或者只过一
科,则白搭,至于工资,具体要看个人的能力,CPA中有佼佼者,ACCA中也有废物点心
,能过ACCA的人未必过的了CPA,因为CPA答案唯一,不允许个人的发挥,错就是错
,对就是对,ACCA允许个人的发挥,答案不唯一,你可以有自己的想法,只要你的想
法合理,ACCA是很注重个人能力的,CPA不是不注重个人能力,而是因为这个行业
在我国起步晚(91年,国外是上百年)所以国外认为我们的考试不够权威,为了打消
国外的想法,财政部将CPA考试设计的极为变态,超难,想考就要有充分的思想准
备,ACCA则要求外语好.以上意见仅供参考,祝好运.



文章来自: cpa和ACCA
作者:无间郁 日期:09/08/2006 08:57:44

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