回复wumiao的评论:
Please also tell us the sections you will publish at the two Web sites.
雪冰月 发表评论于
回复wumiao的评论:
水姐姐尽管贴, 不理会他们的恶言恶语. 我们都支持你!!!
datuzi 发表评论于
yep,出征潇湘网和天涯网...
sissidream 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
Support!
JTMS 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
Jiajia is right. Please let us know and we'll follow to support you there.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复wumiao的评论:
"我最近会在潇湘网和天涯网去试一下"
Please let us know when you do it. So that we could help monitoring the sites and gather information so as to decide the best strategy.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复我似浮云独自游的评论:
You will have to wait until 17...lol. Tuesday.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复datuzi的评论:
"大不了给他们个“F”,重修."
-Agree!!! We have a whole bunch of people here. datuzi Mei Mei makes me feel like debating :-) You are right. I do believe that we could handle any abuse.
回复datuzi的评论:
Mei Mei, many thanks for your strong support.
As a matter of fact, as I didn't know about the fight at Jin Jiang earlier, now thinking about it, we should go there to start more discussions. You know, how Dai Yu could have a new life. Of course, we shall do this only if Miao Mei Mei is fine with it.
回复wumiao的评论:
What an ugly person he/she is! Miao, could you please let us know your story was posted in which website, we can tell the truth to the readers there, and let that guy be ashamed of him/herself for doing that
Sandysj123 发表评论于
I'd rather to wait for the complete one after you come back, please enjoy your vacation with your family
It's really a long week, I always come to Miao's blog several times a day to see if she will give us a suprise( feel guilty to say that) and enjoy the comments of our friends here.
回复littlehedgehog的评论:
Miao Mei Mei will spend this week with her family, as her two kids are having spring break. Also, she really deserves a vacation.
If you feels difficult for this week, try to post your comments here. Share with us your thoughts. That will be fun; also making this week easier :-)
littlehedgehog 发表评论于
真的这个星期什么都不帖了?好失望呀。每天刷新上百次呢。
sissidream 发表评论于
我知道也明白黛玉是爱水溶的, 尽管现在还不及水溶爱她;水溶也是能感觉到的。
“血誓” 那章真是揪人心肺。黛玉 醒来后或满月之后她二人似乎就应该谈一谈, 让彼此了解自己因为牵挂对方多月来所受的煎熬。虽然黛玉一下“全心都在万儿身上”,但是“与水溶再携手回房去”的多个晚上, 还是应该有机会的。也许真让他们谈过(或让我们听到),我们对他们的信心会更大 (especially just after reading this chapter), 也不会有这么多讨论了。
datuzi 说得好: "miaomiao 的心思和文章 are very unique." 我只有佩服的份。
我是100% Daiyu and miao's fan. 对水溶,自然爱屋及乌,他就是黛玉现在的幸福所在.
sissidream MM, you are completely 100% Shui Rong's fan now.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复wumiao的评论:
"感情这个东西,有时说不明白。"
Agree! That might explain why Dai Yu was so attracted to Bao Yu.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论-- 回复wumiao的评论:
"她还要帮助别人走爱情的道路"
I guess Shui Ying. Shui Ying is going to get married soon remember? in 1-2 months, it's time to make a bomb!
jiajia07 发表评论于
MMs, sorry. I will try to type in Chinese in a couple of days. I have too much work these days: each day if I could get 4 hours of sleep. So I probably will not have much time to type in a block of Chinese; my input speed needs to be recovered. See your discussions and didn't want to just watch :-) So any MM could just skip my discussions in English for now. I will try to get back to Chinese typing as soon as possible.
Also, Dai Yu almost died when she worried for Shui Rong. I don't believe it is not love. Just she herself didn't realize it. Shui Rong should feel it, though.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复wumiao的评论:
"她还要帮助别人走爱情的道路"
Hope this someone else doesn't mean Bao Yu. If she helps Shui Ying, making Shui Ying realizes how much Qing Tai loves her (maybe she never realized that before), that would be sweet. But then how about her fiance?
So let me say it out loud here again: "How about let 水溶 give up finally and let 黛玉 and 宝玉 both go back to the paradise forever..." and how about never let Daiyu love Shurong full hearted? and how about they (Dai and Shuirong) will never happily live together?
>>>"mm是在说气话吧!"
You are right! I hate to see that happen. miaomiao 的心思和文章 are very unique, she won't take the ending that somebody says it out.
While I understand all the discussion that we are having here on those three, I still feel that Dai Yu overacted a little bit, which makes Shui Rong's love stands out. When looking ahead, how I wish Dai Yu and Shui Rong could open heart to each other earlier, definitely NOT in the last chapter!
After reading this chapter, I've shared sissidream's concern over Daiyu's feeling toward BaoYu. I have to say I'm kind of puzzled and disappointed.
Can't agree more with datuzi about Daiyu's decision of getting married. It's completely clear nobody forced her into it. And I can't see the motivation behind her entering this marriage if not for love, because I can't imagine how she could sepreate her soul from body. So how can she still loves BaoYu? (In Gone with the Wind, Scarlett married Rhett Butler for his money, and she never tried to hide this. That explained why she could still love Ashley after becoming Rhett's wife.) If she still loves BaoYu, she should stay single to wait for her chance to become BaoYu's wife.
Three people in a marriage will be too crowded, period. Any decent person can only love one person at a time. '一个LG和一个情人' scenario only means the cheating wife doesn't want to leave the money, social status or other benefits coming with the marriage.
About BaoYu, I have to borrow 万年月MM's comment from her article:'一个只会风花雪月,无病呻吟的假宝玉,根本就是对社会、对任何人都毫无益处的.' 宝玉不是曹雪芹. He never wants to take any responsibility. I will not forget that BaoYu caused 金钏的死 and he fled away from the scene.
Agree! I even feel a little bit disappointed somehow after reading this chapter. 黛玉 was very confused, and she met 宝玉 BEFORE and 宝玉 is recovered. Now I almost lose confidence in 水溶 after they shared great difficulites and joys in northwest.
How about let 水溶 give up finally and let 黛玉 and 宝玉 both go back to the paradise forever... sigh
回复datuzi的评论:
"Still spent too much time typing Chinese."
Yeah, me too. Need to recover Chinese input first before I could get back to discussion. These two days every time I tried to join in, and then gave up. I need a big chunk of time before I could type in all Chinese word. Tried WU BI today, forgot a lot :-(
回复jiajia07的评论:
Bao Yu is of no use in real life. He only lives on the wealthy life his family gave to him. So he was enjoying playing with many many girls in the garden.
Shui Rong, on the other hand, took the responsibility for serving his country since 20 years old. He is much respectful.
To date we have already got 7 pages of discussions for this chapter. datuzi, 海棠花, 五维, 明艳如我, kindness Mei Mei MEN, I threw quite some questions since page 1. Still waiting for your comments on my comments :-)
--Because he was thinking and guessing and imagining, "我就想你会是个什么样的人呢?" Then, "后来看到你,呵呵,好个花媚玉堂人,不只花媚,更具玉质。我就想,就是你了,就是你了。" Seems that his original imagination was quite right :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复海棠花的评论:
""关於水溶识宝玉的目的,如果加上阴谋论的话,那就会变得很可怕"
Not necessarily. If we like someone's work (like Dai Yu's poems), we might want to get close to his/her friend. A little 阴谋, not that 可怕 :-)
Right! He used to like Bao Yu very much and persistently until his marriage with Dai Yu. 水溶正面说是很成熟,反面说就是成府很深了。It's great that miaomiao made him an idol here.
反正水溶很早就留心黛玉:
Chapter 4”林姑娘的病一直都没有好么?还是咳嗽的这样厉害”
In fact, he knows it very well.
回复datuzi的评论:
I know exactly what you mean. I think you made a very fun joke. I like it :-)
datuzi 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
Thanks a lot for clarifying the "joke" I made about buying the paintings and poems. That was exactly what I mean. You posted so many comments and I am lost tracking it.:)
datuzi 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论:
---"黛玉抬眼一望,就见水溶站在门边,凝神望着宝玉。"
----Will Dai Yu have some reaction?
Yes, she might feel embarrassed, as miao pointed out later '黛玉心里乱乱纷纷".
jiajia07 发表评论于
"黛玉抬眼一望,就见水溶站在门边,凝神望着宝玉。"
Will Dai Yu have some reaction?
jiajia07 发表评论于
"“妹妹今天回来了,以后就不用回去了。"
So Dai Yu doesn't need to 回到天上去了?
jiajia07 发表评论于
In Chapter "三十、血誓",
"宝玉微笑道:“我等着你,咱们一会儿都要到天上去的,别忘了。”"
-Who pushed Dai Yu? Is it Bao Yu? "为了他你再回去吧", this who is Shui Rong? Since Shui Rong is preying for Dai Yu to come back?
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复datuzi的评论:
"黛玉 always addresses 水溶 "你" instead of "王爷" now"
Agree! Thanks for pointing out.
datuzi 发表评论于
Miaomiao, I have a tiny question:
"黛玉让水溶牵了手,和紫鹃抱着孩子走进一个名叫“晋升”的客栈。"
How could 黛玉 do this, carry Wan Er with 紫鹃? shall we switch "和" and '让",---
"黛玉和水溶牵了手,让紫鹃抱着孩子走进一个名叫“晋升”的客栈。"
datuzi 发表评论于
Another interesting part--
Did you folks notice that 黛玉 always addresses 水溶 "你" instead of "王爷" now? She is changing, but she does not have chance to sit down and think about it.
Cannot agree with you more! "黛玉吃软不吃硬,水溶吃硬不吃软" Really reflects the situation between the two. "黛玉情坚似钢铁,也几乎被这个男人的眼泪熔化成绕指柔", 水溶"听罢,颓然坐下,喃喃道:“姑娘有此烈性,我原该知道", and "怕死了那剪刀".
That's the only way the two can finally get together, in their soul level. This is really how convincing Dai Yu could change her love to Shui Rong eventually, even though "黛玉情坚似钢铁".
"miaomiao是不是又得让这小俩口谈谈啦?" datuzi Mei Mei is so sweet! Miao Mei Mei, maybe we would see some deep talk between them two in the near future?
jiajia07 发表评论于
Really missed WU BI ZI XING SHU RU FA. Any GGMM knows whether I could get an open source somewhere? I used to input Chinese more than 100 characters in 1 minute. Now, I don't have a good input tool. Sigh. Thanks in advance for any information.
Your thoughts triggered my more thoughts, thanks :-)
After this meeting, Bao Yu knows that his 林妹妹 really doesn't belong to him any longer. Before, maybe, I say maybe, still deep in his heart, he might still dream of getting back with 林妹妹. (I guess everyone may have the same hope under similar situations.) He definitely knows how deeply his 林妹妹 and him loves with EACH OTHER.
But now, as Shui Rong has expressed so clearly in front of him, his 林妹妹 has become 水溶的玉儿,"林妹妹已完全不属於自己了". Moreover, 水溶 really loves 黛玉 so much.
So for Bao Yu, there is nothing in this world that would keep him here. All his hope, his dream, his everything (Dai Yu), his love, don't belong to him any longer. Then why he would still stay in this world. There is only one way in front of him. He is out of any hope. It's time for him to leave.
Agree with this layer. But at that time, everyone knew that Dai Yu would marry Bao Yu. I kind of doubt Shui Rong would use this method to get close to Dai Yu. But Dai Yu's outstanding talent might be one important reason why he looked Bao Yu even with more appreciation.
Since Miao Mei Mei hid a clue in that chapter, I guess sooner or later Miao Mei Mei will explain, in some way.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复海棠花的评论:
"水溶对黛玉的一举一动,他都看在眼里,没有嫉妒、没有眼泪,只有微笑。"
I guess 嫉妒 still exists. But Shui Rong is a real man. He knows that Dai Yu and Bao Yu's love story happened even before he met Dai Yu. Also, Dai Yu has been treating him better and better. Especially, Dai Yu worried for him so much while he was in battle, which almost killed herself (with the baby). He has nothing much to be jealous about. But of course, he is a man, he loves Dai Yu so much and he wants to be the only man in Dai Yu's heart. That's very understandable. So he chooses to give Dai Yu more understanding and time and space. He believes that his love will make Dai Yu loves him only, eventually.
Agree with 海棠花 Mei Mei's explanation. Bao Yu wants to release Shui Rong.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复datuzi的评论:
"Inputking.com has Chinese input system online"
Thanks for your information. I just tried a little. Seems not a good input system. Pretty rudimentary. Just my primitive impression. I will try to find a way as soon as possible.
I think what datuzi Mei Mei wanted to say is that, Shui Rong loves Dai Yu. If Dai Yu married Bao Yu, he would "把画都买了", trying his best to help. Although I don't know how many guys in the current world (or just in the world) would have that broad heart to do that). Most likely, they feel sad, and turn to other things. Nobody can blame them. Because they don't have to hurt their own hearts all the time. If one cannot get his/her loved one, he/she needs to search for his/her life.
Cannot agree more with your "活得清清白白". Not only Dai Yu, Shui Rong also 活得清清白白. He even risks his life to fight for his country. Nobody can deny that he 活得清清白白.
"水溶再能,玉儿现在还是个副老婆,还得不时受点气,还要连累被暗杀。他也没办法."
He was married, signed by the king, before he even met Dai Yu. Also, his wife is the queen's niece. Yes, he still owes Dai Yu, and that's Miao Mei Mei's job to solve the problem for all of us! :-) In general, that's not Shui Rong's fault. At least, since Dai Yu married Shui Rong, he has shown to everyone he ONLY loves Dai Yu.
I agree that Dai Yu has started to fall in love with Shui Rong. However, I think even up to now, she herself was not that sure, or she never really analyzes her feelings.
"在前面的百合一回已经完全明确" - I have some different opinions :-) I think at that chapter, Dai Yu is:
(1) very touched by Shui Rong's love, "才知道一个男人竟然也可以哭成这样", "黛玉情坚似钢铁,也几乎被这个男人的眼泪熔化成绕指柔" (please pay attention to the word 几乎 Miao Mei Mei used), "黛玉的心迷朦狂乱".
(2) very moved by Shui Rong's strength, "黛玉听了,心情难以形容,原来婚姻在至情至真的人那里也可以自己作主的,那座看不见的大山原也可以翻过去。" Please pay attention to "原来婚姻在至情至真的人那里也可以自己作主的". From experience with Bao Yu, Dai Yu thought 婚姻 cannot 自己作主, even Bao Yu, the guy, cannot. However, Shui Rong "至情至真", he "可以自己作主". It was the first time Dai Yu knows this possibility, especially this was the forever pain in her heart - she almost decided to commit suiside because of it. Now she sees that Shui Rong "可以自己作主". Right away her heart was convinced.
(3) was pushed by the environment. Shui Rong's concerns are exactly what she is worrying about, "不愿意再让她来羞辱你,也怕别人会另样儿看你". Dai Yu is a BING QING YU JIE DE GUI ZU NV ZI, Shui Rong's wife insulted her very much. To some degree, marrying Shui Rong is the only road for her, as she said, she tried to kill herself, she tried to flee away, but neither worked.
The most important thing is definitely Shui Rong's true love. It is not only just from his word, Dai Yu did accidentally hear Shui Rong's words in front of the wall. And she already knows that, as in Chapter "十、玉成", "黛玉心中明白,原来他经常到这里来隔墙听黛玉弹琴,怪不得那天他能说出自己那首刚谱出的《凤凰涅磐》的意思来。") As "当晚紫鹃连连长叹道:“王爷是真心的...” Dai Yu is very clear and certain about Shui Rong's heart and his love to her.
In addition, In Chapter "十三、沧桑", "黛玉闻言大吃一惊,自己孤陋寡闻,也从不打听,原来北静王有这么大的魅力和来历,而北静王水溶也从未在她面前多说过任何的话。对比之下,黛玉心里又对他添了一份敬佩之情,更不用说先前救出宝玉的感激之意,再加上当日和今日的救命之恩,如此种种,让黛玉心绪繁乱,精神不宁。"
And, finally, in Chapter "九、欲绝", Dai Yu promised Shui Rong if he could save Bao Yu, "“我愿为奴婢,到王府伺候王爷。”" Although Shui Rong never threatened her because of this, in Dai Yu's heart, she owes Shui Rong. "如王爷肯帮忙,黛玉愿肝脑涂地,绝不辞也。”", "黛玉道:“我已经说了,王爷若能帮助把宝玉等人放出,我的话一定做数。”". Dai Yu never eats her words.
So, based on all of these reasons, Dai Yu agreed upon Shui Rong's proposal. I kind of think at that moment, Dai Yu didn't fall in love with Shui Rong, YET.
虎妞娃娃 发表评论于
什么时后才出完呀,真是等不及了
datuzi 发表评论于
回复littlehedgehog的评论:
I tried to install '谷歌拼音输入法'. It did not come up when I use google. Is it because my operation system is in English? Any ideas?
回复jiajia:
Inputking.com has Chinese input system online, you do not have to install. Check it out and see if you like it.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复littlehedgehog的评论:
"麻烦大家尽量用中文好不好?"
Sorry for the inconvenience. I did try to use Chinese. However, my laptop had some issues a couple of months ago, and I couldn't use Chinese input any longer. Every time I tried, my machine will crash and I will have to restart. A couple of weeks ago, I tried to recover Chinese input for typing Chinese for my parents' convenience, my operating system registries were screwed up and it took me two days to recover to a workable environment. I think, if I really spend some time, I could get it fixed. But, I will get a new laptop very soon, and I can reinstall the machine. So spending a lot of time on my current laptop seems unworthy. At current time, I am just like walking at the ege of ice while I use my laptop; and I cannot afford not having the laptop for my work.
So XDJMs, I will try to get back to Chinese input as soon as possible. Many sorry for the temporary inconvenience.
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回复jiajia07的评论∶
水溶的确可能这麽想∶“He knows that, even after they got their own baby, Dai Yu is still in love with Bao Yu.”
但我觉得此时的宝黛之间未必是love,或者说这种love已非单纯的男女之爱。他们之间经历太多了,两人自幼青梅竹马一起长大,曾经到“非卿不娶,非君不嫁”的地步。各自嫁娶,而且还都有了孩子。此时异地相遇,又是宝玉生病之後与他第一次单独相处,他们之间更多的是唏嘘和无奈。
嫁给水溶之後,黛玉在不自觉中己渐渐地将对宝玉的爱转移到水溶身上,可能连她自己都不太清楚,就象“血誓”黛玉梦中,刚和宝玉泪眼相对,但看到水溶来了“黛玉一时又欣喜起来:原来你没死。恍恍惚惚觉得和水溶是有著婚约的。黛玉不知不觉就迎了过去”。由此可见在黛玉心里,水溶的份量在不断增加,何况还有个万儿。宝玉现在只会是她的表哥,她的知己。她不可能同一时间爱著两个男人,这样对谁都不公平。
Even now 水溶 is not quite confident about 黛玉真爱的 (except Wan Er. , but I mean from the deep soul, grown-up side)。
1. In the beginning, 水溶 "站在门边,凝神望着宝玉"-- which indicates the subtle relationship. he could come in with an excited welcome! since they were good friends before :)
2. then he showed off his passion for 黛玉 in front of 宝玉! very interesting. "这要谢谢玉儿,多亏了她。我自然是心喜的,但是若得不着,有了她,我也一样欢喜。”
Will 水溶 address 黛玉 as '玉儿' in front his mother or sister? --maybe not. 潜台词可能是“她是你的林妹妹,是我的玉儿." 而且谁都知道孩子是黛玉生的.
This is not enough yet! "但是若得不着,有了她,我也一样欢喜" -- a little bit show off, but he deserves it. :) 以致于"黛玉的脸上红若桃花,宝玉的脸却煞白如纸". Not everyone can 心想事成, but 水溶 made it!
3. 宝玉跟水溶抢一下词,--Both of them 有些尴尬了.
4. "水溶看着黛玉脸色一变,似伤心又似生气,但慢慢地,他的眼色又泛起温和爱怜的波光,伸手抓过黛玉的手,轻轻拍了拍"-- 水溶,of couse understood what 宝玉 sang, his 温和爱怜的波光 came from his heart for 黛玉 only, not after thinking about宝玉's future, 虽然当宝玉站在黛玉面前时,他现在还没占什么大优势.
5. 水溶微微一笑,牵住黛玉的手,也不和宝玉作别就往外走-- Not 水溶's 稳重 style though.
Miaomiao' magic will let Shui Rong's true love take over 黛玉's heart.
datuzi 发表评论于
Jiajia, you are right, I could not type "descrip-tion" either. there is a bug in the program.
datuzi 发表评论于
回复jiajia07的评论: here is the word.
according to the deions, Shui Rong is 27-19=8 years elder than Dai Yu and then 6 years elder than Bao Yu. Shui Rong used to like Bao Yu very much. recall in "chapter 4 潇湘 :
水溶在原地转了两圈,面对黛玉只好刨心列胆:“我乃世袭的北静王,我的名字叫水溶,当今圣上乃我舅父。我与你表兄贾宝玉本是好朋友,我大他几岁,过去曾经也一处习作玩耍。其实我交结他-----如今不说也罢" --why?
Has any JJMM figured out the reasons that Miaomiao did not write out?宝玉is too outstanding or 水溶wants to approach 宝玉 for 黛玉's poems?
I also do not think 黛玉 can love two persons at the same time, so黛玉本篇表现出来的情不自禁,令人有些伤感。She knows how to face Shui Rong but does not know how to face Bao Yu. 好几处都刻画了她的内心矛盾, for example,
1. always "泪如雨下"---- missing him too much
2. 黛玉看着他,半天低声道:“你不是无才无能,只是错生了时候,时候也错待了你。” while later 黛玉只不接水溶的目光; --不接目光 is the best deion of her thoughts.
3. "你忘了以前我门前的那些杆竹子了么?"-- She does not need to emphasize bamboo, and bring Bao Yu back to old days.
Miaomiao handled this part very well, I would say. Because Bao Yu and Dai Yu have not communicated in a "normal" way after 宝玉's marriage since 宝玉was sick for a long time and Dai Yu mairred out. Now 宝玉 has a clear thought about his future but 黛玉 shows her 一步三回头的眷恋.
jiajia07 发表评论于
Because of datuzi Mei Mei's words, I thought about one more thing:
Bao Yu is of no use in real life. He only lives on the wealthy life his family gave to him. So he was enjoying playing with many many girls in the garden.
Shui Rong, on the other hand, took the responsibility for serving his country since 20 years old. He is much respectful.
-Agree. When a person doesn't have to pretend himself/herself at all in front of another one, that one must be his/her: (1) either Mom and Dad, or (2) very close brothers and sisters, or (3) soulmate.
Obviously Shui Rong could be Dai Yu's soulmate, although Dai Yu has not realized that yet. But soon. QIAN TU SHI GUANG MING DE, DAO LU SHI QU ZHE DE :-)
datuzi 发表评论于
A nice chapter, thanks a lot MiaoMiao!
Agree with most of the comments JMs made here, especially most of Jiajia's and 五维's.
Finished this chapter with a heavy heart, mostly because 黛玉和水溶 still have a long way to become soulmate, 心意相知, 水乳交融, but now they are facing 宫里园内的凶险.
五维 is right. From last paragraph, both 黛玉和水溶 knows that Bao Yu is to going to say farewell to the 世俗 world.
"水溶牵住黛玉的手,也不和宝玉作别就往外走":
Shui Rong 心有不平, though he loves 黛玉 to death.
黛玉 exhibits all of her emotion for 宝玉 in front of 水溶 without any wearing any mask, very naturally 真情流露. People only do that in front of their dear ones. 黛玉一点都不矫情, because of the true love. It might take her a while to realize it.
Thinking loud, how can 黛玉 and 宝玉 make a living if they get married? selling paintings, poems? 恐怕水溶把那些字画都买了吧.
jiajia07 发表评论于
回复datuzi的评论:
"I am using "Firefox"."
I am using Firefox too. By the way, my original word was "des"-"crip"-"tion". Would you like to try to use the word in a whole in your next message? Thanks :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
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Dear Miao Mei Mei, thanks very much for your reading our readers' opinions carefully and your prompt reply.
Your explanation about Zhu Ying's action is reasonable. Maybe you could also consider a little more about his hesitation of letting Dai Yu see Bao Yu, especially alone after Zi Juan and baby left? Zi Juan probably should also think about it, since she is always a very smart woman, thinking of her not willing to allow Shui Rong and Dai Yu stay alone together at the beginning :-)
If you would like to add some showing Shui Rong's love to Wan Er, we might expect to hear Shui Rong's telling Dai Yu in person (again) how he only prey to get Dai Yu back when he knelt down in snow, and how much he loves their child because it comes from Dai Yu, and how much he appreciates Dai Yu gives him all life's happiness, etc.
Anyway, you know better how to write beautiful scenes. We are here just waiting :-)
btw...my reading carefully just because I love your story. As 五维 Mei Mei said, we love to 细细品味 your lovely story. Thanks again.
datuzi 发表评论于
--Jiajia,
I see, thanks for clarification. I have no problem posting though. I am using "Firefox".
jiajia07 发表评论于
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"黛玉是爱水溶的,而且水溶也明白,"
Very agree! The reason why 白瑞德 finally made up his mind to leave 郝斯嘉, because he saw 郝斯嘉 holding 魏希里, which adds the last straw.
In this story, Dai Yu and Bao Yu FA HU QING, ZHI HU LI. NEI YAN XIANG DUI is already the very extreme. So I fully agree, Shui Rong knows Dai Yu just needs some more time; and he is willing to wait.
At least, just kidding, Dai Yu didn't tell Shui Rong just after the baby was born that she didn't want any kid any longer, and didn't want to be close to Shui Rong any longer (as 郝斯嘉 told 白瑞德)...lol.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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That's not a word - I tried to explain in several notes earlier :-) The issue is that, every time when I tried to post my notes, the central part of the original word was truncated. You could try from your side, to see whether you could write the word, yes, that's MIAO2 SHU4. Please let me know :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
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You are right, "将要入佛门之意". Thanks for the explanations.
One question though, "其实大约黛玉和水溶都听明白了,只是故意把话往世俗事上引,不想多说出家的事,以免宝玉更有这种想法。"
In the original Hong Lou Meng, "第二十二回 听曲文宝玉悟禅机 制灯迷贾政悲谶语, 宝玉填一支:
无我原非你,从他不解伊.肆行无碍凭来去.茫茫着
甚悲愁喜,纷纷说甚亲疏密.从前碌碌却因何,到如今
回头试想真无趣!
黛玉笑道:"不该撕,等我问他.你们跟我来,包管叫他收了这个痴心邪话."
In that chapter, it seems that Dai Yu knows how to get Bao Yu stopping thinking of 出家. What I mean is that, Dai Yu knows how to convince Bao Yu, instead of avoiding some topics. Like in that chapter, she decided to ask in Bao Yu's face.
However, in that chapter, "黛玉又道:"你那偈末云,`无可云证,是
立足境',固然好了,只是据我看,还未尽善.我再续两句在后."因念云:"无立足境,是方干净." In the original Hong Long Meng, Bao Yu definitely has 立足境. However, things are different now. He 无立足境, "则看那,衰杨枯柳人踪去,孤月残风影相和。更兼着,世人嘲讥冷笑多。" Now it is clean for him. Maybe that's also one reason Dai Yu stops persuading him any longer.
So, agree with 五维 Mei Mei, Bao Yu is going to be a monk soon.
datuzi 发表评论于
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I could not find "Deions" in the dictionary, guess you mean "depiction"? miao2 shu4? learned a new word. :)
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datuzi Mei Mei, somehow the word cannot be shown. The middle part was always truncated. Let me use pin yin MIAO2 SHU4.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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ok, again, i don't know why the system didn't allow the word. i mean deions. try the capitalized format this time.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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deions means "Deions".
I thought it was a typo. But I just retyped and again when it was posted, somehow it was changed to deions.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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Mei Mei, sorry, deion is a typo, it should be:
After Wan Er was born, we didn't see any specific deions about whether Shui Rong loves the boy, until his sentence in this chapter, "我自然是心喜的"
jiajia07 发表评论于
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That's PIN YIN. In Hong Long Meng, for Bao Yu, "AN2 ZHI3 NIAN4 MU4 SHI2 QIAN2 YUAN2".
datuzi 发表评论于
Jiajia,
what is the meaning of "deion" and "An Zhi Nian Mu Shi Qian Yuan"?
明艳如我 发表评论于
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I mean Baoyu became Monk after Xiangyun died or something...but it might be too much for this book.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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That's possibility though :-) At least now it is TIAN SHI DI LI REN HE for Bao Yu and XIANG YUN...lol.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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In general, no opposition. However, now Bao Chai is helping the whole family for living. If Bao Yu, as a useless man (to some degree), gets another wife. Does that sound right? Now to some degree, he depends on Bao Chai. 出家probably sounds better for him.
I will try to post some of my discussions to Wen Xue City also to ask for more MMs and GGs to come to join in our discussion forum here :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
Ok, that's some of my thoughts after reading this wonderful chapter. Thanks very much to Miao Mei Mei.
MMs, please join in me for further discussions.
jiajia07 发表评论于
I support MMs' suggestion about Miao Mei Mei pursuing publishing the story in a book in the near future.
"有骨头不愁肉", the most important thing of a good book is its backbone, the story and the idea. Miao Mei Mei already has a wonderful story, a wonderful backbone. "人都说好文章是改出来的,我还得改。" That's probably true. A book is even more difficult than a story. Many details need to be TUI QIAO back and forth. But, "Bu Pa Ban Bu Dao, Zhi Pa Xiang Bu Dao". You have a good story, then you already have a solid foundation and potential to go toward a book.
How about this, since you serve us with such a wonderful story and fairy tale, as repay, we will try our best to help TUI QIAO details. Then you could gradually make your story perfect and with more meat.
MMs, any further opinions?
明艳如我 发表评论于
Jiajia07, great comment on 来,回去.Applaus for u.
明艳如我 发表评论于
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yes, this is for Baoyu and Baochai. somehow matching 忧伤中的快乐,both for Daiyu and Baoyu. Daiyu because she will always bear in mind Baoyu-s unhappiness. Baoyu... we don-t need to repeat any more.
jiajia07 发表评论于
One thing for Miao Mei Mei. After Wan Er was born, we didn't see any specific deions about whether Shui Rong loves the boy, until his sentence in this chapter, "我自然是心喜的".
This is Dai Yu and his first child, result of their true love. Shouldn't him cherish their love result very much? I guess Miao Mei Mei wants to emphasize that Shui Rong thinks Dai Yu is the most important, and she is way more important than his children, if he has to make a decision. That is obviously very sweet. But "Ai Wu Ji Wu", he should especially loves their child. (He role in Shui Rong's heart is completely different than Shui Rong's other daughter.) I still remember how much Rhett Butler loves Scarlett and his daughter in "Gone with the wind". Just a thought :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
"就有一个极熟悉的声音道:“你不要推我,我自会走开的。”黛玉一听,如雷轰顶,赶紧站起身来。"
Is it because the dream earlier? Since anyway it is not the first time Dai Yu met with Bao Yu after he was married.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"妹妹今天回来了,以后就不用回去了。看见妹妹身体很好,我也放心了"
Coming back from where, no need to go back where? Especially thinking about the previous "那个昏迷中的梦". In the last chapter, "黛玉思忖了背后那句:“为了他你再回去吧”的话,为他---是水溶?还是这个孩子?还是宝玉?她不明白。" These "come" "go" words appear so many times in the original story and in this story. Need Miao Mei Mei for more explanations to us :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
In Chapter "十四、日暮", Dai Yu controlled herself very well in front of Bao Chai. But here in front of Shui Rong, she obviously didn't even try much to control herself. I think Miao Mei Mei is passing us a message, how much Shui Rong loves Dai Yu and how Dai Yu doesn't have to control and hide her true feelings in front of Shui Rong. Great!
jiajia07 发表评论于
"黛玉心里乱乱纷纷,不觉就问道:“你不是吃过了么?怎么还---”"
Dai Yu is asking Shui Rong or Bao Yu? Or since her heart is "乱乱纷纷", she herself doesn't know? Because Bao Yu also mentioned that he had eaten.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"黛玉愣了一会儿,轻轻答道:“他小名叫万儿。”
Because of 芊儿 and 万儿? Or "草字头下加个千万的千字", still Bao Yu, "An Zhi Nian Mu Shi Qian Yuan", still "草字头"?
jiajia07 发表评论于
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"叹人间, 美中不足今方信.纵然是举案齐眉,到底意难平."
That's for Bao Yu and Bao Chai, not for Dai Yu and Shui Rong though :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
Wonderful chapter! Thanks Miao Mei Mei.
I fully believe that with this chapter, Miao Mei Mei shows that she will not fall into a common three-person love story. She wants Dai Yu to have a perfect love story, with Shui Rong. Then Bao Yu is one mountain that they both have to climb over.
I guess that is the fareware between the three. Shui Rong "也不和宝玉作别", "牵住黛玉的手" "就往外走", them couple will go to their own life.
"黛玉边走边回过头,看着宝玉" Dai Yu is still in sad mood. She also knows that's the fareward between her and Bao Yu.
"宝玉向她笑着点头,眼里含着闪闪的泪花" Bao Yu is saying goodbye to his life-time love. He doesn't want to make her sad, so he "向她笑着点头", although "眼里含着闪闪的泪花". They both know that that's the end between them, finally and formally. From then on, they will have to say goodbye to their love and leaves it in their history.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"宝玉把第三杯酒和水溶叮当一碰,笑道:“到时候再说。”"
Decent. Bao Yu also expressed his feeling, as Dai Yu thought in Chapter "二十四、出征", "但又觉得见面也只有尴尬和难过". He is willing not to see Dai Yu any longer. He doesn't want to bother her life, since he also knows that he still lives in Dai Yu's heart, forever.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"宝玉把这些看在眼里,慢慢地微笑了。"
Bao Yu knows Dai Yu has got her life-time love. He now feels fully released. He truly loves Dai Yu, so he feels happy for her. On the other hand, he also saw Dai Yu's heart, the same as before (well, at least to certain degree). He also feels released.
Really like this, Shui Rong "脸色一变", he knows he is still a loser at the moment (not exactly of course), but still at the moment, Dai Yu has not changed much from the last time when Dai Yu beg him to save Bao Yu and promised to his servant. So he "似伤心又似生气", remember how much he was mad in Chapter "九、欲绝", as he explained in Chapter "二十一、衷情", "水溶看着她的眼睛道:“真不明白,还是假的?你说的愿作奴婢那句话,惹恼了我," He knows that, even after they got their own baby, Dai Yu is still in love with Bao Yu.
Soon, he controls himself. He really loves Dai Yu. He wants to give Dai Yu enough time to recover. He believes that his love will eventually win (or move) Dai Yu. So "但慢慢地,他的眼色又泛起温和爱怜的波光,伸手抓过黛玉的手,轻轻拍了拍。"
"黛玉用绢子试了眼泪,水溶又倒给她一杯热茶劝她喝下去。" Dai Yu knows her reaction is a little too much. But she couldn't control herself. And on the other hand, this sentence also shows that Dai Yu knows how much Shui Rong loves her and spoils her. She doesn't have to cover her real feelings in front of Shui Rong. Shui Rong will understand her. "水溶又倒给她一杯热茶劝她喝下去", really sweet. All Shui Rong's understanding and love are shown in these simple actions.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"宝玉刚唱完,就听黛玉抽泣了一声,泪落下来。"
In front of Shui Rong :-)
jiajia07 发表评论于
"我只是唱给王爷听。"
Wonder Miao Mei Mei has more reasons to show us in the future chapters why Bao Yu wants to sing in front of Shui Rong this song.
jiajia07 发表评论于
水溶笑道:“那自然好,只不过---”
Seems that before, Bao Yu always sing something like "酒楼上的曲儿", having "那些个东西"?
jiajia07 发表评论于
“恭喜王爷得了世子爷。”
Bao Yu has grown up. He knows how to act decently, even though his heart is so uncalm at the moment.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"水溶和宝玉二人皆端起了男人气概"
They are both in front of their only life-time soulmate, the only woman they both love for the life time.
Good deions. Both Shui Rong and Bao Yu are nervous in front of Dai Yu. They also both need some alcohol.
"宝玉住了口" He realizes his role, he is oply a supporting actor in this scene.
"水溶也顿了一下,却接着说道:..." Shui Rong feels Bao Yu's reaction. He "顿了一下". Then he calms down, "接着说道".
jiajia07 发表评论于
"这要谢谢玉儿,多亏了她。我自然是心喜的,但是若得不着,有了她,我也一样欢喜。”
Really likes Shui Rong. He is such as man. He explicitly express his love to Dai Yu.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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"taking care of Daiyu as a real brother...or former lover"
Just my feeling. I don't think Bao Yu considers Dai Yu just as a former lover, let alone a real brother or sister.
Bao Yu told Shui Rong, "我本来要走的,却似乎听见她们的声音,近前来一看果然是她们.” When Bao Yu first came to the door, "面色玉白,两眼清亮,站在门口向黛玉望着。" After Zhu Ying asked Bao Yu to get in, "那宝玉有些懵懵懂懂走进来,直接就在黛玉面前坐了下来,两眼还是盯着黛玉,也不吭声。" Finally, he said, "就听宝玉说了句:“妹妹看上去丰满了些。”
Later, when Dai Yu totally forget to introduce her Wan Er to Bao Yu, Bao Yu didn't say at the moment. Afterwards, "宝玉见黛玉的目光尾随着孩子离去,便笑笑说道:“妹妹也不让我看看他。”黛玉才想起来,刚要让他们回来,宝玉连忙阻止了道:“不要叫了,以后还没有机会再见么?” - His heart is crying. He also didn't dare to see Dai Yu's son.
And many many.
In short, I think Bao Yu still loves Dai Yu so deeply. He still completely doesn't fit into his marriage. He cannot care less. But as 明艳如我 Mei Mei said, he is growing up. He knows how to kind of control his feelings to Dai Yu. She is married to Shui Rong.
These deions are really good. All three's expressions and feelings and subtle interactions are shown vividly.
Shui Rong implicates that he didn't want to have more communications with Bao Yu because of "牵扯到众多原因" (obvious). "说着,眼望向黛玉", he still so much expects to see that his Yu Er already completely fully loves him. Unfortunately, he has to be disappointed again at the moment, even though they two already had a cute son. "黛玉脸上还含着悲伤,只不接他的目光."
The situation between the three is really embarrasing. Bao Yu fully understands and tries to help Dai Yu, "宝玉笑着打岔...".
明艳如我 发表评论于
another impression on this chapter is that Baoyu really has changed much, he is no more the beloved naive boy in Daguanyuan, but an adult, depressed man. He is looking at the life with other eyes, taking care of Daiyu as a real brother...or former lover.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"水溶连忙伸手搀住他,微笑道:“好久没见到你了,你可好?”"
Nice!
jiajia07 发表评论于
That's his Yu Er, whom he loves so much and he wants to use his life to protect.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"这时就听雅间之外有些低低的人声和脚步声,黛玉抬眼一望,就见水溶站在门边,凝神望着宝玉。"
This deion is really GOOD! Nice job! Thinking about it, there are so many things under the words.
Shui Rong is good. He stood at the door, starting at Bao Yu. He didn't go in; he kept enough space for Dai Yu, even though, please remember, at the moment, both Bao Yu and Dai Yu are NEI YAN XIANG DU.
Of course, he is the husband. He stood at the door. That's his right. But at least, he didn't say anything, even not entering the door. But every one of us could imagine how much feelings in his heart at the moment.
Not sure whether Miao Mei Mei hides some link here or not. Dai Yu's that dream is very important. Bao Yu's reaction deserves more explanations; maybe Miao Mei Mei will tell us in later chapters.
回复我似浮云独自游的评论:
At least now you could go to sleep before it gets too late. Miao Mei Mei is so considerate.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"宝玉听了,一下子涌出泪水来,自己用衣袖慢慢擦了,没有说话。"
Once again, Bao Yu knows that in the world, Dai Yu is his only soulmate. How could he get lost of her? I guess that, he not only feels sad about his personal fate, but also, and more important, he feels so sad that he lost Dai Yu. Just as later, when Shui Rong said, "有了她,我也一样欢喜。" "这话说完,...,宝玉的脸却煞白如纸。"
I guess at least on one side, Dai Yu feels a little sweet. Although Bao Yu married Bao Chai, still, she is Bao Yu's soulmate and only love, even though the couple had a baby.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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I took it as a flattery :-) No, I am not. I am in engineering area.
jiajia07 发表评论于
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Right. In Dai Yu's heart, she needs to finally clear her thoughts and feelings. We all hope a perfect ending for them three. I mean, Dai Yu will finally fully loves Shui Rong. In her heart, Bao Yu will always be her soulmate; but eventually, not closely related to men-and-women love. Shui Rong will eventually have Dai Yu's full heart. Bao Yu, he will become a monk, right?
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Again agree, you seem to be a professional critician?
jiajia07 发表评论于
"宝姐姐和环儿还在杨柳村那边开了个棉花作坊,给军队做些棉衣,也有些进项"
This sentence is good, as it relates to "十七、重锦", Bao Chai thought, "也许以后也得靠自己才行" and "十九、钗环", "黛玉道:“姐姐拿这些银子做点本钱,做个小生意也好,你们家过去不是很会这些经济上的法子,..." Seems that Bao Chai took Dai Yu's suggestion and tried to do something to support the whole family. Good.
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Love your writing very much. I follow each chapter closely. After I read this one, I hope you won't lead us into the tranditional and boring 3-people love affair. I still want to read just DaiYu and ShuiRong together, and BaoYu is just a passed story.
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this sounds very frustrating... 10 days without a new update...
明艳如我 发表评论于
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1. Agree, I also mentioned it should be in different ways. since Love could also vary into another form.
2. I think life is never perfect, Daiyu will love Shuirong as the lover and husband, while her love to Baoyu will faint but remain an important part of her personality. Remember Miao Mei Mei said忧伤中的欢乐, the complexity of human being is not just a switch between yes and no.
agree with your comment on zhuyings reaction, also seemed strange to me.
datuzi 发表评论于
I will read the chapter and all the comments later! now we have 10 days to discuss...
jiajia07 发表评论于
"宝玉向紫鹃看了看答道"
Not sure why Bao Yu didn't want to say hi to Zi Juan. In addition, Zi Juan is now married. I guess her dressing especially hair style would have changed. Bao Yu always knows how close Zi Juan is with Dai Yu, and how Dai Yu always treats Zi Juan as her sister. Wonder why Bao Yu didn't say hi to Zi Juan. Maybe his full heart is on Dai Yu?
jiajia07 发表评论于
"黛玉早已泪如雨下"
In front of Zi Juan and 两个奶妈?
jiajia07 发表评论于
"朱英正皱眉想着他是哪个"
Shui Rong said to Bao Yu, "以前你常来我府里做客". Also, Zhu Ying escort Dai Yu to see Bao Yu and Dai Yu before. Furthermore, Bao Yu is obviously very handsome and outstanding. Kind of doubt Zhu Ying didn't recognize him at the beginning.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"朱英马上想起他是谁来,眉头展开笑了"
Since Zhu Ying and Zi Juan are married, I guess Zi Juan must have told Zhu Ying about Bao Yu and Dai Yu's past. Since he is Shui Rong's most trusted person, he should know (guess) Shui Rong's concern. Of course in any way, he should treat Bao Yu very politely; but I guess he would have some concern for Shui Rong, and may not just "眉头展开笑了" - seems he is very happy to see Bao Yu.
This sentence is good, showing Miao Mei Mei's careful considerations.
jiajia07 发表评论于
"带了两个奶水充足的奶妈"
So one didn't come along, either because she didn't want to leave home with her own kid, or because Wan Er didn't eat that much anymore?
jiajia07 发表评论于
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Agree, in general. But I think: love is always selfish, at least in some ways. From Shui Rong's perspective, he wants to have Dai Yu's whole heart. Although Dai Yu and Bao Yu can remain to be 知己 (soulmates), Dai Yu should say goodbye to their love in her heart, if she wants to have a wonderful life and it's fair to Shui Rong. Agree that "sometimes you could love 2 persons in different ways", but needs to be in different ways. One in love, one in other way, for example, brother-sister feelings eventually. If "Daiyu will always love Baoyu in the deepest heart", if she still "love" Bao Yu and cannot change the feelings to another type of love, Shui Rong will never be really happy.
jiajia07 发表评论于
Obviously, Dai Yu still loves Bao Yu so much deep in her heart.
"黛玉见他还是心里一惊,连忙拿帕子掩了微张的双唇,双目便开始变得模糊"
This is NOT the first time Dai Yu saw Bao Yu after she moved out of JIA FU. In Chapter "十四、日暮", she went to see Bao Yu and Bao Chai. However, this time, she saw Bao Yu alone - without Bao Chai. So she still could not control her feelings toward Bao Yu, even in front of her servants. (Remember, Zhu Ying is Shui Rong's people.)
明艳如我 发表评论于
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After reading this chapter, I fully agree with u, 衷情is one of the best chapters of this novel, I also like 日暮,血誓, all have to do with Baoyu. It is difficult to describe the 3er relationship, especially in regard of Baoyu and Daiyu.
But I think Daiyu will always love Baoyu in the deepest heart, sometimes you could love 2 persons in different ways.
Like what Daiyu said to Baoyu你不是无才无能,只是错生了时候,时候也错待了你,they will remain 知己.
jiajia07 发表评论于
This chapter is really great!
I read the last chapter and had so much wanting to discuss with MMs. But I was too busy in the last several days and didn't get the chance. Will bring out my thoughts this weekend.
Miao Mei Mei has the best thinking for this chapter. It gives a real end in Dai Yu's heart toward Bao Yu. Dai Yu deserves her own new wonderful life. In order to fully enjoy her life, she will have to cut her love to Bao Yu, sooner or later. That will be fair to Shui Rong too. He really deserves that. I think in Shui Rong's heart, he also expect that one day, Dai Yu can put down Bao Yu and only love himself, with her full heart.
In Chapter "九、欲绝", Shui Rong thought, "果然自己就没有一点希望么?这辈子即使可以得她的人,却不能得她的心么?" Now he has got Dai Yu as his wife. But I guess he is still uncertain whether he has got her heart. Almost, he knows, sadly, he has not won her heart. In Chapter "二十一、衷情", he said, "你为他那么着,其实我很佩服的,你很有侠义和勇气,就算是这两样吧,是不是?还有别的么?” Please pay attention, "就算是这两样吧,是不是?还有别的么?" He so much wanted to hear a positive answer for the first question and a negative answer for the second. (Although he almost completely knows the answer.)
At that time, Dai Yu said, “古人有话,士为知己者死。王爷难道没有知己的么?” The answer was so obvious. Dai Yu considers Bao Yu as her "知己"; although Shui Rong considers Dai Yu his "知己": "来的晚,人却是第一份。" I was really touched and moved by Shui Rong's complete love to Dai Yu at the moment. He must be so disappointed and sad at that moment. But still, he chose to give Dai Yu time and space, just clearly express his love.
At that time, Dai Yu so much understood Shui Rong's love and was very touched too, "黛玉的心里如石投水,涟纹波波荡去,忍不住也抓住了水溶的手". But still, she didn't cheat her own heart and didn't say something untrue just to please Shui Rong.
"两个人都默不作声,过了一会儿,水溶把黛玉的小手放在自己温和的大手心里,轻轻摩挲,两个人又共同望向玉舍那边。" Shui Rong was showing his true love without words; two of them decide to turn the topic to themselves, to their own love story, that's why "两个人又共同望向玉舍那边", because the house records the starting of their own love story.
明艳如我 发表评论于
I am the third today... Miao Meimei, happy easter. Thanks thanks thanks.
wava 发表评论于
sofa
jiajia07 发表评论于
Many thanks to Miao Mei Mei! Ding before reading! Happy Easter and have a great spring break week with your family!